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by tpark » 15 Feb 2017 23:09
Eazy123 wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:With dimple picks, my favorite is from Femurat. But a half diamond pick works decently for a lot of the dimple locks I have tried.
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Is Femurat a poster here? Also is there a decent beginner dimple lock you can recommend? Another user recommended a mul t lock but I'm still looking around... For plain dimple locks, Mul T lock 7x7 are great - not too hard, but they have spools, at least mine does.
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by kwoswalt99- » 15 Feb 2017 23:12
Eazy123 wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:With dimple picks, my favorite is from Femurat. But a half diamond pick works decently for a lot of the dimple locks I have tried.
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Is Femurat a poster here? Also is there a decent beginner dimple lock you can recommend? Another user recommended a mul t lock but I'm still looking around...
He's more than a poster, he's a mod.  You could start with a cheap dimple lock instead of a MTL, you should be able to find one on Amazon.
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by GWiens2001 » 15 Feb 2017 23:29
Eazy123 wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:With dimple picks, my favorite is from Femurat. But a half diamond pick works decently for a lot of the dimple locks I have tried.
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Is Femurat a poster here? Also is there a decent beginner dimple lock you can recommend? Another user recommended a mul t lock but I'm still looking around...
Femurat is one of the moderators here, and yes, he posts as well. Not to mention that he is a really skilled guy whom I respect a lot. I think of a classic Mul-T-Lock (as we will frequently say around here, MTL) as more of an entry to the mid-level locks. Since dimple locks are not nearly as common here where I am in the United States, will leave it to others who are more familiar with dimple locks to decide what is a good 'beginner' dimple. But you might consider going to look at the Collector Locks section of Security Snobs. You can get a Sargent Keso dimple lock core for $15, plus $6 for a working key. It is certainly a very reasonably priced dimple lock. Good luck! Gordon
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by Eazy123 » 16 Feb 2017 2:36
Thanks guys! I ordered the Sargent Keso. 
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by femurat » 16 Feb 2017 4:02
GWiens2001 wrote:Femurat is one of the moderators here, and yes, he posts as well. Not to mention that he is a really skilled guy whom I respect a lot.
That's very kind of you, my friend. You know the esteem is mutual. Eazy123, as a good beginner dimple lock I suggest a MTL 7x7 or Garrison, there are both 6 and 7 pin versions. You may need to remove a couple pins at first, but it will entertain you forever. Very good to learn and then to warm up. The Keso is a good beginner choice too. As intermediate dimple locks you can get a CISA Astral or a CISA Asix or an ISEO R6. Those are my absolute favorites because they require you to know what you do and be focused to pick them, but are not frustrating. Leave the DOM alone until you're very good with the others. They are the most difficult dimple locks that I'm aware of. Speaking about picks, a steep half diamond with a thin shaft is what you need. Put its tip under a pin and rotate it to lift the pin. Cheers 
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by G-lock » 16 Feb 2017 8:49
 I've been waiting for my goso dimple pick set to get here to give this lock a try but after reading the last few posts i decided to just try sanding down the tip of my half diamond to make it slide under the pins a little better as suggested and BAM! I got this baby open in 5 minutes. My first picked dimple lock! Only 5 pins with some spools but its a start. Thanks for the tips & info guys 
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by Eazy123 » 16 Feb 2017 9:01
femurat wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Femurat is one of the moderators here, and yes, he posts as well. Not to mention that he is a really skilled guy whom I respect a lot.
That's very kind of you, my friend. You know the esteem is mutual. Eazy123, as a good beginner dimple lock I suggest a MTL 7x7 or Garrison, there are both 6 and 7 pin versions. You may need to remove a couple pins at first, but it will entertain you forever. Very good to learn and then to warm up. The Keso is a good beginner choice too. As intermediate dimple locks you can get a CISA Astral or a CISA Asix or an ISEO R6. Those are my absolute favorites because they require you to know what you do and be focused to pick them, but are not frustrating. Leave the DOM alone until you're very good with the others. They are the most difficult dimple locks that I'm aware of. Speaking about picks, a steep half diamond with a thin shaft is what you need. Put its tip under a pin and rotate it to lift the pin. Cheers 
Thank you for the advice and recommendations! Is there any place that sells MTL 7x7 in the states? I'm a bit leery of buying from Poland or Bulgaria on eBay where they say it'll take three weeks to a month to get the item.
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by Squelchtone » 16 Feb 2017 11:04
Eazy123 wrote:femurat wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Femurat is one of the moderators here, and yes, he posts as well. Not to mention that he is a really skilled guy whom I respect a lot.
That's very kind of you, my friend. You know the esteem is mutual. Eazy123, as a good beginner dimple lock I suggest a MTL 7x7 or Garrison, there are both 6 and 7 pin versions. You may need to remove a couple pins at first, but it will entertain you forever. Very good to learn and then to warm up. The Keso is a good beginner choice too. As intermediate dimple locks you can get a CISA Astral or a CISA Asix or an ISEO R6. Those are my absolute favorites because they require you to know what you do and be focused to pick them, but are not frustrating. Leave the DOM alone until you're very good with the others. They are the most difficult dimple locks that I'm aware of. Speaking about picks, a steep half diamond with a thin shaft is what you need. Put its tip under a pin and rotate it to lift the pin. Cheers 
Thank you for the advice and recommendations! Is there any place that sells MTL 7x7 in the states? I'm a bit leery of buying from Poland or Bulgaria on eBay where they say it'll take three weeks to a month to get the item.
If you fill out your Profile location letting us know where you are, we can tell you local places to go. Any NYC Mul-T-Lock locksmith shop will be able to sell you 7x7 or Garrison, but it's probably not very common outside New York. Squelchtone

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by Eazy123 » 16 Feb 2017 11:08
Squelchtone wrote: If you fill out your Profile location letting us know where you are, we can tell you local places to go. Any NYC Mul-T-Lock locksmith shop will be able to sell you 7x7 or Garrison, but it's probably not very common outside New York.
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Thank you - I've always been careful about putting my location info/personal info on any forum and had thought maybe there was an online seller someone could point me to, but for what it's worth I'm in Chicagoland - which I realize is very general but I don't mind short road trips 
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by Squelchtone » 16 Feb 2017 16:25
Eazy123 wrote:Squelchtone wrote: If you fill out your Profile location letting us know where you are, we can tell you local places to go. Any NYC Mul-T-Lock locksmith shop will be able to sell you 7x7 or Garrison, but it's probably not very common outside New York.
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Thank you - I've always been careful about putting my location info/personal info on any forum and had thought maybe there was an online seller someone could point me to, but for what it's worth I'm in Chicagoland - which I realize is very general but I don't mind short road trips 
Both of these are located in North Center (I'm not from Chi-town so I dont know if that means anything to you) http://www.securityshopinc.com/ is an authorized Mul-T-Lock shop so is http://www.nonstoplocksmith.com/product ... ity-locks/ just dont tell them it's for picking practice.. some locksmiths are not keen on this hobby. If they try to sell you Classic, Interactive, or MT5, just say you specifically want an old 7 by 7 euro profile or mortise cylinder I get a lot more traction when I walk in, in person, and say I'm a lock collector. If you just call them they may say no we dont have it and then they hang up and you never get further than that. Squelchtone

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by Eazy123 » 16 Feb 2017 16:36
Squelchtone wrote:Both of these are located in North Center (I'm not from Chi-town so I dont know if that means anything to you) http://www.securityshopinc.com/ is an authorized Mul-T-Lock shop so is http://www.nonstoplocksmith.com/product ... ity-locks/ just dont tell them it's for picking practice.. some locksmiths are not keen on this hobby. If they try to sell you Classic, Interactive, or MT5, just say you specifically want an old 7 by 7 euro profile or mortise cylinder I get a lot more traction when I walk in, in person, and say I'm a lock collector. If you just call them they may say no we dont have it and then they hang up and you never get further than that. Squelchtone
I appreciate it, thanks. I had already e-mailed two others I found in my search, and mentioned my interest in the hobby, so there goes that. Fortunately they weren't the two you mentioned so I will look into those and stay mum on picking. I figured it wouldn't be an issue to them as the two locksmiths I've visited in my area thought it was interesting I was into that, one gave me a few locks free and the other asked if I was looking for work. Thanks again, either way!
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by OrMeanGene » 16 Feb 2017 18:04
femurat wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Femurat is one of the moderators here, and yes, he posts as well. Not to mention that he is a really skilled guy whom I respect a lot.
That's very kind of you, my friend. You know the esteem is mutual. Eazy123, as a good beginner dimple lock I suggest a MTL 7x7 or Garrison, there are both 6 and 7 pin versions. You may need to remove a couple pins at first, but it will entertain you forever. Very good to learn and then to warm up. The Keso is a good beginner choice too. As intermediate dimple locks you can get a CISA Astral or a CISA Asix or an ISEO R6. Those are my absolute favorites because they require you to know what you do and be focused to pick them, but are not frustrating. Leave the DOM alone until you're very good with the others. They are the most difficult dimple locks that I'm aware of. Speaking about picks, a steep half diamond with a thin shaft is what you need. Put its tip under a pin and rotate it to lift the pin. Cheers 
There several mortise style like yardeni brand or kenuard that make great practice dimple locks. There's some already setup with set screws and extra pins with them. Or make your own for cheap. 12bux for lock and 25cents for set screws.
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by OrMeanGene » 16 Feb 2017 18:06
Rainy day picking. Started with this and see where it takes me. 
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by GWiens2001 » 16 Feb 2017 20:55
G-lock wrote:I've been waiting for my goso dimple pick set to get here to give this lock a try but after reading the last few posts i decided to just try sanding down the tip of my half diamond to make it slide under the pins a little better as suggested and BAM! I got this baby open in 5 minutes. My first picked dimple lock! Only 5 pins with some spools but its a start. Thanks for the tips & info guys 
Congrats, G-lock! Feels great, doesn't it? Gordon
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by G-lock » 16 Feb 2017 22:43
GWiens2001 wrote:G-lock wrote:I've been waiting for my goso dimple pick set to get here to give this lock a try but after reading the last few posts i decided to just try sanding down the tip of my half diamond to make it slide under the pins a little better as suggested and BAM! I got this baby open in 5 minutes. My first picked dimple lock! Only 5 pins with some spools but its a start. Thanks for the tips & info guys 
Congrats, G-lock! Feels great, doesn't it? Gordon
Thanks & it does! Picking a lock gives me a unique sense of gratification.
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