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 Post subject: What are Warded Locks?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:46 am 
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Hi, I just recently got intersted in the art of lock picking and I have learned about the common pin locks. But I do not know about the Warded style lock. I was wondering if you could tell me about theis style of lock and how to bypass it.

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 Post subject: Warded picks
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:16 pm 
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Buy the $10 tool on the links photo. It will bypass any warded lock really fast, unless it is a vending machine. Haven't figured out to bypass those, but they are high security locks.


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hey our screen names are similar. a little too similar. :?

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Vending machine locks are almost definately not warded locks. Too poor security for any amount of cash. I must caution though that the warded pick set works best for Warded padlocks made by Master , or clones there of. I have a "Guard" brand warded lock that takes quite a bit of manipulation from those picks to open.


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How are these locks different from pin tombler locks. Thanks for the pick information

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 Post subject: warded
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warded locks are different because instead on there being pins inside the lock there is a lever at the top some times 2 levers are used. warded locks are very bad for security because to bypass it all you do is push the 1/2 levers to the side and this allows to shackle to open. I also tried this, i grinded the key of a master warded lock down to a 'T' shape at the end. like one of the warded picks in the links picture above. but i then found out that the lock I had, had 2 levers and that pick only moved one lever. i found that the top lever opened the left part of the shackle and the lever under it opened the right part of the shackele, so I put the home made pick into the second lever and turned it half way so that the lever was pushed out of the way then on the other side of the shackle i put a padlock shim in and it opened


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That's a lever lock you've just described you plum!! :roll:

Warded locks are locks with "wards". A ward is a fixed piece either inside the lock which means that the key cannot turn inside it unless the key has a corresponding cut out or the lock may have a side ward (usually a key has to be shaped to fit the key hole (it may be "S" shaped or something similar to this). This design was used for hundreds of years until around the early 1800's when (I think) Mr Chubb changed it all by introducing lever locks. You generally find warded locks in very low security applications (wardrobes, cupboard doors etc)

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No I did describe a warded lock I just forgot to mention the actual wards lol (I am a plum lol) any way I am right in saying there is a kind of lever at the top of the lock, that is what gets pushed out of the way when the key turns.

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In this pic you can see how easy it would be to pick this lock.

Any way Im sorry for not describing the lock in better detail before but I hope this clears up what i ment in the previous post.


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Great, thankyou for all of the information. After thinking about it I was thinking about purchasing one of those ten dollar warded lock pick sets. But I was wondering if those picks will open all of the common warded locks and if there are any special techniques in opening these kinds of locks? Again, Thankyou.

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well there mainly used on MASTER warded locks but they can be used on some others.

As Chucklz said before "I must caution though that the warded pick set works best for Warded padlocks made by Master , or clones there of. I have a "Guard" brand warded lock that takes quite a bit of manipulation from those picks to open."

It is a good idea to buy them as you can never have too many different kinds of picks, they will all come in handy some time... Even if that is just as a back-scratcher of some sort.


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Thankyou, I will get a set of warded lock picks, just in case.

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I found this link as being useful to understand how a warded lock works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warded_lock

Here is an image of a warded lock.

Here is a picture of a set of warded picks.

Just kicking the dead.

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lol - I saw this thread topic and then saw maso was the most recent person
to post in it and I thought "marso's ranted about searching again" then I
opened the topic and lo and behold - there's no search rant here!

hooray! :D

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... not that ranting about searching is a bad thing though..... :wink:

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 Post subject: Searching
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WhiteHat wrote:
... not that ranting about searching is a bad thing though..... :wink:


It is when it's all you ever see. :wink:

Seriously, too many people don't search. If all we did was search though, there would be no discussion, no new ideas, and thusly we get an encyclopedia.

Now that's not a bad thing either, but honestly, have you looked at a 10 year old encyclopedia? There is a reason they update those things.

When you talk about things like lockpicking, security, or just plain tools for the job, things can change. Updates are not that uncommon. Evn if the basic pick set hasn't changed in 60 years, there are still developments.

Damn, I did it again. I'll end now before I take another two pages.
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