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What kind of lock is this and how can i make a duplicate

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What kind of lock is this and how can i make a duplicate

Postby biggbabysweetz1 » Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:37 pm

Hi there im new to these forums but im not trying to be a lock smith or trying to really learn how to pick locks but anyways heres my question. recently i purchased a used Whirlpool coin-operated washing machine for my rental property. since it is used and out of warranty i cant get service from whirlpool themselves, the guy i bought the machine from cant find the key to the coin box anywhere he had all the other keys like the keys to the top cover for dip switch settings and such but not the coin box key. ive already put 200 bucks down and im not in the mood to buy another coin box so i can rip this coin box out. what kind of lock is this and how to i make another key (or at least pick it so i can put a different type of lock on it) heres an example of what the lock looks like from the manufacturer (these guys are expensive)Image
if anyone knows how i can get my coin box open without breaking it or with minimal damage let me know thanks![/img]
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Postby raimundo » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:30 pm

that is an abloy classic on a coin box installation. look for a locksmith with abloy mentioned in his yellow pages add and call him about copies.
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Postby biggbabysweetz1 » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:42 am

ive heard a lot qbout abloy in europe there supposed to be high security huh? well looks like i gotta spend more money cuz here aint no way i can pick this. the only thing i have ever picked was a pair of hand cuffs when i was 17. thanks anyways for the info, ill look around for a locksmith.
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Postby David_Parker » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:48 am

Call a locksmith, and have him replace the lock or make a key for you.

Either way, you need to get into the 'mood' to spend the money for the job.

Never underestimate the half-diamond.
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Postby Guesss » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:29 am

if you decide to scrap the lock i would love to get it from you... always looking for throw aways :wink:

hope that you don't ahve to though.

What if I pick "Pandora's Box"?
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Postby biggbabysweetz1 » Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:23 pm

well i got a hold of a lock smith and he wants $200 to pick this thing thats downright ridiculous. is there someone who could let me know how to open this thing so i dont have to shell out 100-200 bucks again. if i could pick this thing just once i would GLADLY donate this frustrating lock to someone who can use it to their advantage
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Postby digital_blue » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:08 pm

There is a secret tool for getting past these, and I really shouldn't be saying anything here, but if you keep it between you and me, I'll tell you. Here is a pic of it:

Seriously, these are a high security lock for a reason. This is not the lock to start on. If there was a quick way I could tell you to open it I probably would for no other reason than I'd like to take you up on that offer, but there just isn't. And wouldn't it be silly if there was? Why would somebody shell out the money for a high security lock that anybody could bypass easily? Pay the locksmith his $200 and be done with it. If he actually picks it, it'll be worth the $200.

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Postby vector40 » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:18 pm

Locksmith's charging for his (moderately rare) skill/tools. Keep calling around and find someone who won't bleed you dry; the act itself isn't twelve hours long and doesn't requrie the sacrifice of a lamb.
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Postby biggbabysweetz1 » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:11 pm

i really appreciate all of your help and it seems that all of you generaly have a superior knowledge to a trade lesser known and for that im gonna get a hold of this guy again that i bought the machine from and see how much he wants for his other coin boxes. all of them look like the picture i posted. ill try to get a deal for em and ill see about setting some of you up with one of these incredebly secure (yet incredibly frustrating)?abloy? locks
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Postby raimundo » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:52 pm

Is the photo of the very lock you have or is it just a photo of the type? In the photo, this box is not in the machine, so the lock can just be removed and disassembled, you could even hand file a key if you had the blank or even a piece of rod in the right diameter although that would be the hard way. You would just file and fit file and fit and keep trying it til it worked. don't cut any new sidebar grooves on the discs, that would be cheating.
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Postby Ezer » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:50 pm

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Postby biggbabysweetz1 » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:13 am

thats just an example of the lock it isnt the exact once but at the same time it is the exact one and yes its in my machine im tempted to use that tool digital blue mentioned and making the whole thing look pretty afterwards
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Big Baby!

Postby keysman » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:45 am

Don't use a hammer!

Pretend you are putting a NEW one in your (open) machine!
How would you go about that?

Now THINK about how you could get that open without destroying any expensive parts?

Hint: You probably already have the necessary tools and equipment.

Good luck!

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Postby biggbabysweetz1 » Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:01 pm

hey there all its me again i eventually got this lock open and the coin box now has a new lock hey there was also 50 cents still in there :D anyways i let the guy i bought the machine from know i got it open talking to you guys and i told him you were all a big help so he wants me to ask you a question hes got a bunch of old washers and dryers some have keys some dont. now hes gonna call a locksmith but he wants to find the right one first so heres a pic of the lock, what kind is this one?
he wants to know what kind of lock it is before he calls around. any help would be greatly appreciated
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Postby vector40 » Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:24 pm

Using my superior deductive capacity, I have ascertained it to be the UG1200, on the Whirlpool. It's available with a variety of lock cylinders.

http://www.greenwaldindustries.com/prod ... .asp?ID=22

(I just backtracked to the server your image was hosted on, then clicked around until I found the specific image. Your friend could have given you that.)
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