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[lockpicker69]

ok you might all be selling cheap auto tools from china but what about some cutrain picks mortice picks and decoders anybody gona drop their prices on these

[lockey1963]

sadly i doubt safe ventures will ever drop their prices, i wish but dont hold my breath, which i guess rules out cheap decoders.

As to curtain picks , the best ones to have , the cb range are made from high quality materials in the uk, and i know chris makes very little on these tools, so cannot see these comming down in price unless quality is sacrificed, which is something cb wouldnt do and i wouldnt want a sub standard pick, its currently the best curtain pick range for a number of reasons including , price , quality and of course functionality, i dont believe much could be taken off of a quality tool such as these.

i guess its the same for the SW safetools , ICL , RB , Safeventures etc picks, all manufactured from quality materials in the uk, so without cheapening the quality, i doubt this is a possibility, though live in hope.

Chinese import tools are what they are, cheap , with the exception of a few brands and tools , not always best quality and life time tools.

But if safeventures look in, Any chance of some discounted decoders ?

[sparkster]

I'd be interested in cheap decoders as well, i reckon quite a few of us on here would.
ukbumpkeys did start a trend of cheap import tools, but thats all they were, cheap, i would rather pay the extra and get decent quality tools, the cb curtain pick is a decent quality and have to agree chris would not compromise quality, a lot of these cheap import tools will do the job but a lot of them need some serious work doing to them to bring them up to anything half decent.
I have brought tools from a few of the mentioned sites but i find the hobbyist is to easily pleased with crap, i see a war of words going on between a couple of the mentioned sites and this really makes them look like children trying to play in an adult world, just sell your tools as the public will spend their hard earned cash where ever they think they are getting a better deal.
I love price wars just as much as the next guy but all this name calling is getting a bit tedious so i'd rather buy something and not join in childrens games.
One more thing, cant nelocksmith reduce their prices a bit more as they appear to include vat in the shown price, but if they only just started up, how can they charge vat? and they dont appear to be a bona fide registered company with a vat reg number, so i'd be hard done by to try and get my vat back.
I could be totally wrong in the last statement, but i dont like having to spend money when i dont have to

[poolmaster]

''One more thing, cant nelocksmith reduce their prices a bit more as they appear to include vat in the shown price, but if they only just started up, how can they charge vat? and they dont appear to be a bona fide registered company with a vat reg number, so i'd be hard done by to try and get my vat back.''

NELS dont charge VAT, read the site properly, NO VAT or POSTAGE ADDED AT THE CHECKOUT

THE PRICE YOU SEE IS THE PRICE YOU PAY !!!!!

but as an afterthought, every seller charges vat, the law on vat is that you cant include it in the shown price (input) if you are vat registered. If you are vat registered it must be added as a seperate item. Until your turnover breaches the vat threshold you do not need to pay the collected vat to the treasury, however you can choose to do so, as this means you can claim back the vat you pay to suppliers, (output).

NELS is not new to business , they also have a highly successful glazing business providing clients with quality replacement double glazed units and window and door furniture at the right price.

[poolmaster]

And for good measure, NELS also donate a percentage of their sales to the Honeyrose foundation, a charity providing 'special ' days out for families with terminally ill members.

show me another lock pick shop that does this as i cant find any that do

BRAVO to NELS

[Jaakko]

poolmaster, when you are done with your sales speach, could you please stop talking in 3rd person?

[panalman]

but the question is chris, when are you going to drop your prices, greedy man you are

I Have bought from NEL and there service is good but there tools are shit no follow up to emails at least at UKBK there is a returns policiy I think the competion should take not of this..