Electric Scissors or Electric Pick

[Fah_Cue]

anyone know where to get a pair in Australia

Cheers

[dxlocks]

Do you have spotlight over in Sydney Fah_Cue?

They sell many different kinds i believe, if there is no spotlight look in hardware and sewing shops.

[Fah_Cue]

ok thanks

[ju_]

Very cool. I'm trying to figure out the mechanism though. Is it that there's a 'paddle' or cam on the motor shaft which tilts the pick up with every revolution, then it's returned by the spring pulling down on it?
I'm trying to think of ways to make the stroke length variable (without going to the trouble of searching to find out how it's been done elsewhere ).
Also, if it was desirable to vary the frequency of the stroke, could you just slap a variable resistor on it?

Gordon this pair of electric scissors uses an offset cam.

But as you can see from my posts above I do not think the pick has enough "snap". I think taking part of another design (southord electric pick) and implementing into the above might help.

See http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/138/48 for the southord design

As for the stroke length this could be done using a screw in the bottom of the scissors stopping the orange head moving as much.

I will be looking this weekend at modifing the above, Last night I was manually picking locks, which is my real interest.

[ju_]

Well, I couldn't find that particular model of electric scissors today, but I found another very similar model, so I bought it (for $5 CA). I just took it apart, made very similar mods as yours, and gave it a whirl.

First stop, my house door. Worked like a charm, and almost instantly. Go Defiant! Next stop, a Baldwin cylinder which has much tougher springs. No love there. Seems that it's just doesn't have the power to accomplish what it's supposed to do when the springs are a bit stronger. I can hear/feel the motor bogging down. I even tried swapping the batteries just to be sure. But it's not an all together loss. There are probably a whole slew of Weisers, Kwiksets, etc. that are ripe for the picking (pun intended) with this puppy. Overall, pretty neat. I'll show it off at my next LSI meeting.

And best of all, it was fun.

db

DB the pair of electric scissors I have do have a good bit of torque so would probably be OK (Let me put it another way I can file my finger nails down with mine)

But I still think the main problem is that there is not enough "snap". So at the weekend I will be trying the following...



Removing one side of the the plastic 'boot', which holds the offset motor cam will enable some of the movement to be free from being motor driven. Installing a safety pin (or some sort of spring steel) should give a spring or "snap" the the free direction. (I think I have the pin fitted correctly in the idea above)

Will tell you how it goes this weekend, when I do the mod.

Ju

[Chrispy]

Very nice Ju!!

Well done.

[Auto45]

You may want to get this patent and start selling them for $150

[ju_]

You may want to get this patent and start selling them for $150

Would love to make some money, but alas this design is already patented.

Anyway decided to make the idea open source....well only for lockpicking101 members.

As said above will post results of the mod and how to do the mod at the weekend.

[Shrub]

Well done ju, a sticky on the first postings

[ju_]

Well done ju, a sticky on the first postings

Feel a bit Embarrassed ,as they have put my sticky post above your sticky post. You have been a member alot longer.

(Admins could you switch the sticky posts round. You know respect and all that. Shrub's project is better)

I am going to try out your bosh project next time I see a electric screwdriver at a car boot sale.

[Shrub]

Dont worry about any of that, theres a new kid in town lol

The posts are put on the list automatically to when they were posted, a sticky just keeps it above the rest and stops it getting pushed down, mine doesnt deserve to be at the top unless its an anouncement it will just go down the list each time a new sticky is put up and cant be changed,

Im not bothered, i think it was a sticky because its an often asked question, youve got a long way to go before you reach my view totals though lol

[devnill]

Ive been trying to make an electric pick out of a cheap electric toothbrush..i think i should try your method; mine cant even pop a kwickset

[ju_]

Ive been trying to make an electric pick out of a cheap electric toothbrush..i think i should try your method; mine cant even pop a kwickset

Devnill

I have been looking at the electric toothbrush designs which have been posted on this site since 2003/2004. The problem I can see with the design, is that I don't think there is enough vertical movement from an electric toothbrush, it just seems to vibrate in a horizontal or slight circular motion.

How about connecting one of raimundo Bogota picks to the end of one of these designs. As quoted in

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=10351

Gentle lifting and rocking. Once a pin sets and firms up it wants to slide down into a valley so the peaks can work on the adjacent pins.
I love this tool for basic locks, but I'll admit that I have no luck using it with security pins. It's great for getting an inital false set with spools, but I havnen't found the technique for getting them opened all the way.

Perhaps using one of raimundo Bogota picks and vibrating the pick might enhance this superb pick even more?

You have got me thinking ....Will search for my old electric toothbrush tonight...

[Auto45]

Ive been trying to make an electric pick out of a cheap electric toothbrush..i think i should try your method; mine cant even pop a kwickset

Try other pick tips(snake or rake) a w rake pick on the end of my electric toothbrush that works for me, I tried using a standard snap pick tip and the toothbrush done not seen to snap up as needed to pick the lock, for me it works better as a electric raker.
auto

[Fah_Cue]

nooooo i just been to spotlight and they said they wont be getting any Electric Scissors in till 4-6 weeks