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[pretender]

Personally, I'd just grab the schematics for more conventional varieties off i-hacked.com's site and kludge one together from that.

Don't see any sense in re-inventing the wheel.

[helix]

http://i-hacked.com/

[digital_blue]

I played a bit with this idea but never got it to work. Maybe someone out there can take it and run with it.

I tried using one of these hand held milk frothers. You can see it at http://www.thesourcecc.com/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=BarGadgets&product=6318382.
It spins at a rediculously fast rate. The problem is that is spins. I was looking for an easy way to translate the spinning into an up and down force, but nothing I played with turned into anything useful. The most promising approach seemed to be to cut the end off and grind a flat-ish edge onto two sides near the end. My hope was that as it spun it would bounce the pins. It may have worked but I suspect it was spinning too fast to actually get them hopping, so instead they just sat atop this violently spining monster and vibrated a touch. I was testing on a Kwikset cutaway I made some time ago. It was unable to open the Kwikset, so I took that as a bad sign.

Anyway... maybe it'll inspire someone to do something with one of these things. I was able to get them for a buck from a local doller store, so I thought it would be perfect if I could get one to work.

Cheers.

db

[geno]

I played a bit with this idea but never got it to work. Maybe someone out there can take it and run with it.

I tried using one of these hand held milk frothers. You can see it at http://www.thesourcecc.com/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=BarGadgets&product=6318382.
It spins at a rediculously fast rate. The problem is that is spins. I was looking for an easy way to translate the spinning into an up and down force, but nothing I played with turned into anything useful. The most promising approach seemed to be to cut the end off and grind a flat-ish edge onto two sides near the end. My hope was that as it spun it would bounce the pins. It may have worked but I suspect it was spinning too fast to actually get them hopping, so instead they just sat atop this violently spining monster and vibrated a touch. I was testing on a Kwikset cutaway I made some time ago. It was unable to open the Kwikset, so I took that as a bad sign.

Anyway... maybe it'll inspire someone to do something with one of these things. I was able to get them for a buck from a local doller store, so I thought it would be perfect if I could get one to work.

Cheers.



db

Funny you should mention that. I was also thinking of making some sort of attachment for my cordless dremel. I dont think it would be difficult, but in the end you would end up with a saw

I took apart the phone and found that the motor is tiny. 1/2"x3/16" (13mmx5mm for our metric friends)

I dug out my crashed R/C plane and pillaged the motors. I will epoxy a weight to the shaft and take it for a test run.

Im not sure if the motor will cause enough vibration.

[tester293]

If you want to play around with an electric pick just go to a sewing store and buy a battery powered electric scissor. Cut off the stationary head and replace the movable head blade with a pick.

[Chrispy]

I played a bit with this idea but never got it to work. Maybe someone out there can take it and run with it.

I tried using one of these hand held milk frothers.
db

This is eerie db.....

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=8657&highlight=milk+frother

7th post down.

*X-Files theme plays softly*

[geno]

I hooked up one of the plane motors to a 9v battery today. It spun very very fast. Then I taped a small piece of plastic to the shaft.

I think this will idea will work great if I can isolate the motor well enough, and if I can transfer the vibes from the motor to the pick. Im planning on using JB weld to attach some sort of weight to the shaft. Im gonna look for a rubber stopper to mount the motor in.

[TOWCH]

Is the phone working a requirement? I can picture this working if you could gut the circuitry.

[geno]

Is the phone working a requirement? I can picture this working if you could gut the circuitry.

Nooooo. just a fancy case. Its already gutted. I havn't test fitted the 9v battery but it looks like it should fit.

All I need room for is the motor, battery and a small switch which will reside behind one of the numbers.

[TOWCH]

Sounds like a righteous project. What type of phone are you using?

[geno]

Sounds like a righteous project. What type of phone are you using?

Its a Kyocera 2325

http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/image/phone-detail/phone_2325.jpg

Size: 4.72 in x 1.89 in x 0.95 in (119.9 mm x 48 mm x 24.1 mm)

The 9v battery is too large. Instead of looking for an alternative I think I am going to modify the battery cover. I'll heat it up and put a bulge into it.

Now the plan is to mount the battery behind the keypad and the motor will be behind the screen. I am going to mount a push button switch in the hole where the earphone jack resided.

There is a threaded bung where the antenna screws in. I am going to remove the bung and clearance the area where it fit in, then I am going to bond a short piece of 1/4" threaded rod to the bung. I am going to have to tap the bung to 1/4-20 since it is currently a fine machine thread. (I am going to make picks that will have a threaded end bonded to them) I will fit some rubber O-rings around the bung and push it back into the newly clearanced hole.

Im going to find some very soft rubber to mount the motor in. It will not be attached to the body of the phone at all.

I will bond some pieces of wiper stiffner to the motor and bond the other end to the 1/4" rod. I'm hoping the vibration from the motor will transfer to the rod attached to the bung. The O-rings should help isolate the vibrations from the body of the phone.

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[digital_blue]

I played a bit with this idea but never got it to work. Maybe someone out there can take it and run with it.

I tried using one of these hand held milk frothers.
db

This is eerie db.....

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=8657&highlight=milk+frother

7th post down.

*X-Files theme plays softly*

So is it that great minds think alike? Or are we sharing a brain? Did it ever work out for you?

db

[Santos718]

Seem to be a good phone for a project like this.

P.S., next time you post an image, please do not hotlink. That's stealing bandwidth.

Thanks

[Chrispy]

So is it that great minds think alike? Or are we sharing a brain? Did it ever work out for you?

db

Great minds think alike. Did it work out? Noooooooo......

[digital_blue]

Did it work out? Noooooooo......

Yeah... I suspect it's just too darn fast. Oh well. Thought I might be on to something.

db