Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.
by LockNewbie21 » 22 Mar 2006 16:07
I wasn't boasting, i was stating the truth, besides that, If you dont bother to listen to me its your own ignorance, besides as far as a toy well i will have to hit you with it sometime..dont speak about something you no nothing of, And yes the carnivore program does monitor this along with many other goverment programs, i know this because my dad works in designing similair programs, and happens to know a tad bit more than you. I am a polite person in these forums, dont make a fool of me or anyone else as i never have, And yes posting a gun pointng at a camera is just like a all the little wanna be gansters around where i live, I hope my opinion. Now that thats clear, lets see how much more mature you guys are then me and drop it. But illusion if you want to furthur try and boast oyur ego and bash me somemore the be a hipocrit it doesnt bother me. To anyone else ignore this and the few other posts and cantinue normal discussion.
Andy
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by LockNewbie21 » 22 Mar 2006 17:05
And besides all this.. in reality i hate guns, my best freind was shot by one and i got one stuck to my head already for bumping into a guy at a supermarket parking lot in the city i live near. If i come off offensive especially illusion, try not to take offence, my anger come from my friends passing and me almost getting shot for bumping ito a person. Guns are jsut touchy to me, i dont like them i dont like people flashing them.. but in anycase sorry for the miss understanding, smart @ss words never solve anything appologies and explinations of why i said was said... so i appologize, just tyr and realize where i am comin from with guns.
Andy
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by bonez » 22 Mar 2006 17:10
ln21
no probs mate,let sleeping dogs lie.

don't eat yellow snow -a quote by illusion.
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by illusion » 22 Mar 2006 17:54
Think nothing of it.
As it happens I support your point of view concerning guns. I understand where you come from, and those who know my past would testify that I hold similar views for the same reason... I'll never touch drugs as long as I live, and I doubt you'll carry a gun equaly - the consequences are not nearly so glamorous as some would have you believe, are they?
I apologise likewise.. I overreacted, and shouldn't have...
Sorry mate.
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by LockNewbie21 » 22 Mar 2006 19:16
Hey illusion and fellow members appologies accepted, it was a very immature thing to do to flip out as i did, i hope noone thinks lower of me. Illusion i am glad someone understands.. there jsut no good. Maybe hunter will testify but seeing your best friends moms cry and kiss his dead son for the last time ehh well its over but my deepest appologies for my immature actions. Take it easy fellas
Andy
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by Shrub » 22 Mar 2006 20:08
The problem is i think we all know someone that has been shot and thats the upsetting thing,
When i first started driving i was with around 8 mates one night, we were in our cars parked in a remote carpark on the hills listening to music from the car stereos and having a kick around with a ball.
One of my mates had just bought a 2 year old 205 gti and we were looking around that more than anything until a ford escort pulled up with 4 lads in, all i can remember is seeing the guns, they ordered him into the boot of his new car and then 2 of them jumped in his car and drove off while the other 2 stayed threatening us with a gun until he was out of site then they went as well, i jumped in my car as did another mate and we tryed to follow them but my car wasnt up to it (it was my first car and the elastic band was tired under the bonnet lol) anyway they fired a shot at my mate who was in front of me so we both stopped and waited for the police to turn up who had been called by the others,
The car was later found half burnt out with my mate dead in the boot with bullet holes in his head and body, we never knew why it hapened or what he had done to deserve such a thing and they never caught anyone for it.
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by Bahrg » 22 Mar 2006 20:28
Its all well and fine to note that yes guns do kill people, but the cars we are talking about protecting kill alot more people. I own guns and cars (not handguns) my idiotic driving at times has been alot more dangerous to life than any of my gun handling.
Had an uncle die in a motorcycle accident at a far to young age, as a result I have been unable to enjoy riding them. So I can easily understand how someone who lost somebody close to them would feel the same about guns.
I actually had a good laugh at the picture, but one thing bothers me... I sure hope there was nobody behind that camera, cuz then I would feel very uncomfortable. I dont like the idea of guns being pointed at anyone loaded or not.
Cause if they catch you in the back seat
Trying to pick her locks,
They're gonna send you back to mother
In a cardboard box. (Gilmour, Waters)
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by Shrub » 22 Mar 2006 20:30
Well a mate got killed last night in a motor bike crash, i would never ride one, ive seen too many go that way round here.
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by dazza » 25 Mar 2006 1:47
HI shrub
derbyshire is really bad for motorbikes theres thousands of people go there in the summer. and some of the bends are pretty dodgey from what ive seen used to do alot of rug sales there.
what was the first post 
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by JackNco » 17 Apr 2006 13:11
looks likea tool i saw on a video about pickng the argos unpickable locks
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by Mutzy » 25 Apr 2006 1:58
I have a club with a gem (tubular) lock. The key is a tube looking thing with 4 holes on either side of the shaft. If i'm feeling good, i'll try to pick it sometime... 
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by Mollywirebandit » 27 Apr 2006 10:11
That must have been a seriously long time ago! Before Dunblane and the banning of hanguns in the UK?
I'm sure that must have been terribly traumatic for all involved, but I'd like to think England is a safer place since then, even acknowledging the "outlaw guns + only outlaws will have guns" argument.
As for the guy suggesting a gun or a stungun is the best way of securing a car, doesn't really help when you're away from your car, huh?
"I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three."
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by p1ckf1sh » 27 Apr 2006 12:45
Mollywirebandit wrote:As for the guy suggesting a gun or a stungun is the best way of securing a car, doesn't really help when you're away from your car, huh?
Don't be fooled by the ingenuity of some people. I remember reading an article in a news magazine a few years back about South Africe. The crime, especially car theft and hijacking is or was awfully bad there, and some luxury car owners had systems installed that made me cringe. Sidepipes that acted like bunsen burners at the press of a button (to foil carjacking, once someone stands next to your car he gets his ankles burned badly) and some makeshift device that consisted of a 12gauge shotgun shell mounted below the driver seat, this was actuated when the car was moving and the system had not been jammed by the owner (security through obscurity).
Totally against the law almost anywhere in the world, probably even there, but nevertheless...
Just wanted to throw this in, sorry for moving off the topic...
Due to financial limitations the light at the end of tunnel has been turned off until further notice.
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by Mollywirebandit » 3 May 2006 5:56
Sidepipes that acted like bunsen burners at the press of a button (to foil carjacking, once someone stands next to your car he gets his ankles burned badly) and some makeshift device that consisted of a 12gauge shotgun shell mounted below the driver seat
Reminds me of that advert in Robocop, where that car thief gets electrocuted! 
"I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three."
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by ysr50speed » 12 Jun 2006 17:17
Alls this is, is a regual type pick with a fancy handle. Don't waste your money. Invest in a normal lockpick set. Plus many clubs(if you were picking them) now have tubular type locks on them.
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