Agency pick gun made for the CIA

[n2oah]

So we can all say that this "huffer" thing is hogwash?

[bembel]

if there are any threads still knocking around then let one of the mods know.

If they really want to move them, those threads can be found by using the search button.
In my opinion, the sputnik isn't much of a secret. It's also discussed openly in several other lockpicking forums and you can even watch PR videos on the web.

[Makesstuff]

So we can all say that this "huffer" thing is hogwash?

I'd have to say I still believe in it. It sounds like something that would work and I build stuff all the time. On the other hand why would a spy agency want a pick that opens locks without ever touching or damaging the pins like a pickgun would? Sounds much too sneaky for day to day use. Forget I mentioned it.

I'm torn between a small loud 12 volt compressor and a fish tank air pump for my home built version...I'll start with 2 high volume fish tank air pumps and see it I can get the pins to move in a little experiment.

MS

[Shrub]

Bembell im not argueing with you im just passing on the stance taken when it was last discussed.

Many things such as bomb making can be found on the internet and is openly discussed but it doesnt mean it can be discussed on here.

[p1ckf1sh]

I'm torn between a small loud 12 volt compressor and a fish tank air pump for my home built version...I'll start with 2 high volume fish tank air pumps and see it I can get the pins to move in a little experiment.

I don't think they will even consider moving with two little pumps. If I were you and really bound to try this (which I am not) my first ideas would be salvaging an on BB gun and using CO2 cartridges, allowing you to get a compressed and quick hit into the keyway.

This might even work pretty easily if you pin the lock totally flat (all same cuts) with high bottom pins, so there is not much travel to do. Or it might have to be a "staircase" pattern (lowest bottom pin front, highest rear) because the pressure diminishes as the shock travels through the keyway.

But I think this will never really open properly pinned locks.

[Gordon Airporte]

Feh, who needs some fancy mechanical gizmo? You've heard of token sucking? Welcome to lock blowing! Nice and quiet, no pumps running! All you need is a little wrench you can manipulate with your tongue!

[n2oah]

I wouldn't count on air pressure opening any lock, even if incorrectly pinned. If this were possible, I'd just pin my locks with nice, strong springs.

[raimundo]

You need a tiny airwedge like a leprechauns condom to pump up, it would work just like foil impressioning in reverse, instead of the pins denting down, the pufferfish would blow up

[Shrub]

Ray im ahead of you on that one, ive tried that on not only cylinder locks but also lever locks

Ive also tried a small hydrolic system on lever locks.

[NKT]

You could reverse it, and use a suction device. Do that trick with the freeze spray on the springs, and then lift the top pins up with a mini vacuum.

[silent]

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We had a discussion back in the day about air pick guns. Sort of debunks the huffer.

[raimundo]

Wow, Im impressed, small hydrolic system on lever locks, it sounds so high tech, I wonder if you had dial readout to feel the gates Im still working on my tube and cable shapeshifting hook pick, the stainless toobing is a bit large, would probably work on a medeco, since they usually have wide keyways, its the sputnick hook concept, one pick tip, size adjusted in the keyway. I am thinking of using fine twisted cable, with a drop of leadsolder on the working tip, and a finger loop coming out the end of the toob that is related to the handle, this could feel the tip as you shapshift, and thinking of medeco, the little lead tip could be shaped to cuddle with a chisel tip and you could twist that finger loop to adjust the rotationof the pin. whatever, so far its not more than a concept, and a piece of toobing waiting for the right little piece of cable to fit it.

[Shrub]

Use syringe needles and either piano wire or steel guitar strings

The hydrolic system was never finalised as it didnt seem to work but imagine a P+C type tool with syringe needles coming out and a valve that would select which 'plunger' fitted in the p+c holes was manipulated, then make a simple fluid filled 'resovoir' on the outside, it was just a push button on a round chamber,

All this was back in theday when i was trying anything and everything, i also made one that separated the plates of a lever lock apart enough so the levers could be slipped off the post then simply the bolt drawn back,

Then i got good with the curtain picks lol

[raimundo]

Was it hydrolic ? that little bottle jack you slipped in the keyway and jacked the clamshell apart with?

[Shrub]

Yes, worked on the same princible as the lever lifter except it had a valve in it so i could keep pumping pressure in to it, problem was leaks as i rushed the making of it and didnt put proper seals in the system.