Is there such thing?

[Agent 99]

I already know the responses that await me, but you just dont know unless you ask.

Recently watched my DVD of "Gone In Sixty Seconds" 2001 w/Nick Cage. They use waht looks like a digital pick gun to start the Jaguar Donny steals when he says I'm Robin Hood, I rob from the rich and give to the needy."

Anybody know what I'm talking about? Well, it is real or a prop?

[jordyh]

Most likely, it's a prop.
If (and i mean IF) it is real, it will be for advanced topics only, i think.

My two cents

Yours,

Jordy

[Varjeal]

As far as I'm aware, prop. But a reasonable question.

[pizarro]

I remember hearing somewhere that if you keep sending a wrong digital code, the time it takes before the system will allow you to enter another one gets longer each time. Thie stops you just trying all of them one after the other, as the time between when the system will let you enter the next code to try grows exponentially.

But I'm not sure how accurate this is, and I could be talking complete CAP.

[NKT]

CARP, I think you mean...

Yes, most modern electronic challenge response systems have a "back off" timer. There was an early car system that used a rolling code, but you only needed to scroll through 1/3rd of the possible set, which brought it down to 4000 codes. This meant that at full speed, and with no "sorry, wait 5 seconds" it was possible to open the system in under 5 minutes.

With a back off system, such as the cheap electronic safes have, you enter 3 codes fine, then have to wait 30 seconds, then 3 more codes, then 5 minutes after each 3 until it opens. This ensures that a brute force is impossible.

I don't know that jag's have them, but I would think they do.

[secondcity]

jags run a similar system as the ford pats immobiliser so minimum of 8 mins wait regardless

[LockNewbie21]

Lol dont believe gone in 60 seconds its movie magic, i mean come one he starts the mustang in the end in 2 seconds with the quick pick!

Andy

[CVScam]

Yea its a movie and cage makes it look a lot easier than it is. That does remind me of "The Toyota Trick" but very few old toyota cars are on the road around here nowdays. The last one I had on my lot was at least 5 years ago.

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[grit1]

That movie does more justice to actual lock picking than most I've seen [IE James Bond] but leaves some to be desired...

In that same scene with the code thinger he turns the ignition after two clicks of a pick gun, with no tension tool!

[LockNewbie21]

Haha maybe it is us indeed who are the idiots and there genious's but i wouldlike to see a movie that has the most acurate lockpicking, o and to bring it up i also seen a breif lockpicking seen in screem.. i forget which number but to my knowledge it was accurate he used a tension tool and a hook look like and HPC hook, the pick time was like 3 seconds , but according to standard picking procedure it was accurate my hats off to screem anyone else seen that int he movie it was twards the end? also he had a safe but he couldlook it buy using some sort of infared remote,, is this real? like safes controled my infared remote? i know if it is its advanced but i just want to know if its true?



Andy

[lockedin]

Has anyone seen Jim Jarmusch's Ghost Dog? Freshman year of college my English Professor got the whole class talking about this little device that shot codes out until the ignition started. It was used several times by the main character to start luxury cars, and seemed to work much like a TV-B-Gone for cars.

[caddycad]

Has anyone seen Jim Jarmusch's Ghost Dog? Freshman year of college my English Professor got the whole class talking about this little device that shot codes out until the ignition started. It was used several times by the main character to start luxury cars, and seemed to work much like a TV-B-Gone for cars.

great movie! if i remember correctly he didnt even stick anything in the ignition.. in theory if this does exhist i believe it would work off the car alarm's "remote start" feature

[LockNewbie21]

Isn't that a VAT interigator of some sorts? But you can jsut hold it there you need a key to hook on to it?


But its cool becuase the movies make it seem to easy, then when you get here its a challenge.

I have to admit though, when SPAMMER was stealing cars, iw as watching her... well i was watching her


Ha i liked Vinny's part as the guy who doesn't talk, Sphyx i believe? i thought he was the life of the movie, then he talked like a genious in philosophy at the end.

Dominc makes some good flips, he did swordfish as well, but his idea for a trofan work was a box on a screen with more little box's going onto it, so i think he like the flash of it mroe than the accuracy.

Which is Hollywood

[!*AMP*!]

Some of the FUNNIEST getting around locks was in an old 1960's movie, called We're No Angles...it had Humphrey Bogard, Ray Aldo, and Peter Ustinov in it...

Peter Ustinov is a master safe and lock cracker that uses a special method, LOL. He closes his eyes, rubs his hands over whatever he's trying to open, and "hones" in on the correct spot then gently hits it with his hand, hehe. Everything then just opens. At least they didn't try to make it appear real!

[unbreakable]

Some of the FUNNIEST getting around locks was in an old 1960's movie, called We're No Angles...it had Humphrey Bogard, Ray Aldo, and Peter Ustinov in it...

Peter Ustinov is a master safe and lock cracker that uses a special method, LOL. He closes his eyes, rubs his hands over whatever he's trying to open, and "hones" in on the correct spot then gently hits it with his hand, hehe. Everything then just opens. At least they didn't try to make it appear real!

Thats great. Wish I had those kind of 1337 skills.

I really liked gone in 60 seconds, it has to be one of my all time favorites.