pickguns and snapguns on biaxials?

[darrel.h]

hello all,

I am wondering if snapguns and pickguns work on biaxial locks.

[illusion]

In a word, no.

[Shrub]

A snap gun is a pick gun,

At present no as the pins have to be rotated,

It leads an interesting question though, would a modified blade be able to randomly spin the pins?
I cant think of any particular form you could have on the blade that would facilitate the spinning of either direction right now.

The pins need to be turned for the sidebar, if the sidebar wasnt there they are easy enough locks to open.

[darrel.h]

A snap gun is a pick gun

Not always. Snapguns are mechanical and pickguns are electrical.

[Shrub]

Nope, an electric pickgun is electrical, a snap gun is just another name for a pickgun, you can get manual or electric pickguns,

Its neither here nor there however, we know what you meant,

Its still an interesting thought if somthing could be designed that would ramdonly spin the pins whilst setting them,

[ju_]

A snap gun is a pick gun,

At present no as the pins have to be rotated,

Shrub as I don't have one how easy do the pins spin?

Do the pins spin 360 degrees or more in one direction?

It leads an interesting question though, would a modified blade be able to randomly spin the pins?

If the above answer is easily and yes...

Then would a pickgun with a bevelled pick (at 45 degrees), "slightly offset snapped", not create enough spin to spin the pins randomly to the desired position one way?

You can always just tell me that I don't know what I am talking about and delete the post

PS. One more question do the pins have to be set before rotating the pins to set the sidebar or can you do it the otherway round? Because if you can rotate the pins first to engage the sidebar and then set the pins, that would give me another idea.

[UWSDWF]

1. as I don't have one how easy do the pins spin?

2. Do the pins spin 360 degrees or more in one direction?

3. PS. One more question do the pins have to be set before rotating the pins to set the sidebar or can you do it the otherway round? Because if you can rotate the pins first to engage the sidebar and then set the pins, that would give me another idea.

1.fairly easy
2.I don't know about other locks but on the medeco no... only about 45degrees
3. not too sure I think it can go either way but remember there are false sets for the sidebar

on another note I think this might be getting a little advanced

[illusion]

I picked my new Biaxial today with 2 pins and a sidebar, and I can finaly throw something into picking Medeco locks.

I found that it works best when turning the pins before lifting them, since you don't risk unsetting some pins already at the sheerline when fussing about with turning them. I found that when you rotate them to a false notch you can rectify the rotation without unsetting that pin, by reducing tension and turning the pin gently. I haven't really been able to fully feel the difference between a true, and a false gate yet however.

To be honest, I don't find the pins easy to turn, but I guess I may find it easier, the longer I pick it.

[ju_]

1.fairly easy
2.I don't know about other locks but on the medeco no... only about 45degrees
3. not too sure I think it can go either way but remember there are false sets for the sidebar

Thanks UWSDWF for the information

on another note I think this might be getting a little advanced

I think anymore questions I ask will definately be getting into the relms of the advanced section. So I will leave it there and try and get my hands on one, thanks again for the info.

[LockNewbie21]

YOu'd need two diffrent angled head's and some other stuff,, thats as much as i will say congrats illusion.


Andy

[Octillion]

YOu'd need two diffrent angled head's and some other stuff,, thats as much as i will say congrats illusion.


Andy

Nope. Illusion, see my post in the advanced forums on page two of digital_blue's thread "Trying my hand at a Medeco". I probably should have started a new thread, but I posted a guide there on how to pick Medeco's only requiring a short hook. That's all I'll say in the open forums, but I do address your issues I think.

[LockNewbie21]

I read your guide i concure with you, i was just stating about using a pick gun if the idea was plausable at all. Very well written if i do say so myself.


Andy

[Octillion]

Ok. The fact that you congratulated Illusion at the end of that statement seemed to suggest you were directing that information to Illusion as advice, I didn’t know you were referring to snap guns. Just a little confusion… there are people who think that picking Medecos requires a bent half diamond or similar tool.

[LockNewbie21]

Nope sorry about the confussion bud, nope jsut congradulating him and saying you theory on the process is great i have been trying it i need some more practice but i does have a great success, atleast from skill level with the lock now.. which is not much

[illusion]

I did read your advice in the adv.section Octillion, and am using a Falle medium hook to pick it.

For the record, using a bent diamond does help somewhat to turn the pins if you bend it right, but since I hate every diamond pick with a passion, I avoid ever using them in general.