what is the difference between pick guns

[fonzie123]

ie what is the difference between the brochage bpg 10 and the rest???any feedback would be appreciated

[Jaakko]

Well as you didn't elaborate clearly enough, I can say that the difference is that some of them are electric ans some of them are manual/snap guns.

It really would help if we would have something to compare to. Your question is like to go to a auto seller and ask about Lada's difference "to the others".

[fonzie123]

Well as you didn't elaborate clearly enough, I can say that the difference is that some of them are electric ans some of them are manual/snap guns.

It really would help if we would have something to compare to. Your question is like to go to a auto seller and ask about Lada's difference "to the others".

sorry i wanted a comparison between manual and electric i hope that clears it up and thank you for the reply fonzie123

[Eyes_Only]

If you pick locks as a hobby, you don't really need a pick gun, especially a electric pick gun. They take away the fun out of the sport and dulls your picking senses and hand coordination to the point that you can't even guide a spoon full of your favorite jello into your mouth anymore.

Pick guns are mainly for law enforcement and professional locksmiths who need to open locks fast. I have one pick gun and I use it maybe once every couple months just for experiments or when I really put myself into a bind. It's not worth the price, trust me.

[fonzie123]

If you pick locks as a hobby, you don't really need a pick gun, especially a electric pick gun. They take away the fun out of the sport and dulls your picking senses and hand coordination to the point that you can't even guide a spoon full of your favorite jello into your mouth anymore.

Pick guns are mainly for law enforcement and professional locksmiths who need to open locks fast. I have one pick gun and I use it maybe once every couple months just for experiments or when I really put myself into a bind. It's not worth the price, trust me.

as i do a bit of both my uncle owns a security firm that does repos also so sometimes quick entry is needed mate i have the brockhage bpg-10 i wanted to know if their is a better one i also use picks its a small set its the southord c801 but it does the trick for me i also have some home made aswell but always looking for more to buy but as i live in the uk its getting harder some i have seen on here are brill i would buy them no problems using paypal fonzie123

[87ELC2]

I haven't tried the Brockhage, but I have several manual pick guns by HPC, Majestic and Ilco. In my experience, they have all been equally successful in opening locks. I can tell you that I've broken 4 HPC guns in my 12 years as a locksmith, but have never broken a Majestic.

I do notice a substantial difference in the trigger feel between my 2 Majestics, and I definitely favor one over the other simply for that feel - Same thing for my 3 HPCs. I keep the "second string" guns as backups (I have pick sets at the shop, at home, and in my service van).

I also have HPC's Electropick. It has a pretty good success rate, and has held up for 5 years.

Why do I own so many pick guns? I just kept buying until I found ones with the trigger feel I like. And I'm a hopeless tool junkie

[fonzie123]

I haven't tried the Brockhage, but I have several manual pick guns by HPC, Majestic and Ilco. In my experience, they have all been equally successful in opening locks. I can tell you that I've broken 4 HPC guns in my 12 years as a locksmith, but have never broken a Majestic.

I do notice a substantial difference in the trigger feel between my 2 Majestics, and I definitely favor one over the other simply for that feel - Same thing for my 3 HPCs. I keep the "second string" guns as backups (I have pick sets at the shop, at home, and in my service van).

I also have HPC's Electropick. It has a pretty good success rate, and has held up for 5 years.

Why do I own so many pick guns? I just kept buying until I found ones with the trigger feel I like. And I'm a hopeless tool junkie

i think i must like tools and gadgets the brockhage bpg-10 has been good to me as i am in the uk and it cost£33.00 all infrom the uk with an extra set of needles for free fonzie12

[Shrub]

One is powered by an electric motor and the other works by pulling the trigger,


They both have the same outcome but the manual ones need more practice,

[whiteknight38]

Hi 87ELC2
Can you describe the trigger problem with the one Majestic LockAid gun that is giving you problems?
I deal with Majestic, and have purchased many of their excellent guns over the years.
I've never handled a Southord, but I've seen all the others, and believe that LockAid leads in the market.
I have found, however, that maybe one in fifty thereabouts, has a glitch in the trigger action, and has to go back to the distributor.
I'm guessing that I can clock about 3 to 4 clicks per second when using one of these guns, but find that the offending tools kind of hesitates, every five trigger pulls or so, and misses a click. It's annoying, and throws off the rythmn of the work.
The good news, is that Majestic has a life time, no-hassle warrantee, and will replace the gun without questions.
Send me a PM and I'll get you the address of the manufacturer

[87ELC2]

Hi 87ELC2
Can you describe the trigger problem with the one Majestic LockAid gun that is giving you problems?
I deal with Majestic, and have purchased many of their excellent guns over the years.
I've never handled a Southord, but I've seen all the others, and believe that LockAid leads in the market.
I have found, however, that maybe one in fifty thereabouts, has a glitch in the trigger action, and has to go back to the distributor.
I'm guessing that I can clock about 3 to 4 clicks per second when using one of these guns, but find that the offending tools kind of hesitates, every five trigger pulls or so, and misses a click. It's annoying, and throws off the rythmn of the work.
The good news, is that Majestic has a life time, no-hassle warrantee, and will replace the gun without questions.
Send me a PM and I'll get you the address of the manufacturer

There's technically nothing wrong with the gun - it doesn't miss a stroke. It's just that I have to pull the trigger about halfway back to begin the action. On my preferred Majestic, as soon as the trigger comes back the action starts to pull the needle down. Just a personal preference thing...

I definitely prefer my "good" Majestic over my other guns. I knew they had a lifetime warranty, but it's good to hear there's no hassle over repair/replacement like with some other manufacturers (Snap-On Tools comes to mind but that's another story). Thanks for the offer - I have their address and will be contacting them.

[Shrub]

Snap-On Tools comes to mind

Hence why i have at least 5 times more Facom tools than Snap on tools, i guess youve had the whole forensic test rubbish thing as well

[dab]

I have broken 1 ilco, but it came with replacement parts,
I have broken 3 majestic guns, all went in for "factory service", which if you have the gun you know it is riveted together. They stick it on a sanding belt, repair the internals, and give you back one ugly gun with deep scratches.

[Eyes_Only]

I just received my complimentary pick gun from Foley-Belsaw (don't know why, I enrolled after I got the discounted price on the course) made by Ilco and it sucks. It feels pretty solid and made well but it is sooooooo weak! I have an old beater with the name E-Z Pick Gun on it and it works so much better. I crank up the tension on the tensioner dial about six times on the my E-Z pick gun and can open just about any standard pin tumbler lock I have. I crank up the Ilco gun six turns up and it hardly does a thing. If you were looking for any advice on what pick gun not to buy, stay far far away from the ilco gun. Piece of crap!

[Knows-Picker]

I just received my complimentary pick gun from Foley-Belsaw (don't know why, I enrolled after I got the discounted price on the course) made by Ilco and it sucks. It feels pretty solid and made well but it is sooooooo weak! I have an old beater with the name E-Z Pick Gun on it and it works so much better. I crank up the tension on the tensioner dial about six times on the my E-Z pick gun and can open just about any standard pin tumbler lock I have. I crank up the Ilco gun six turns up and it hardly does a thing. If you were looking for any advice on what pick gun not to buy, stay far far away from the ilco gun. Piece of crap!

Its funny you would say that, because most of the complaints that I have heard from people about their crappy guns are that they are hitting WAY too hard. To the point there are even a couple of threads on here about a simple mod of drilling out the back of the gun to allow the spring and rod more room to decompress a little so that it will work better. Using a pick gun never requires alot of force in my experience. I usually start off as light as it goes and give it about 5-10 snaps and then give it a half a turn on the dial and try again, repeating the proccess until the lock is opened. I have never had to go more than 4 full turns. Maybe the brockhage pick gun is just built really well. I don't know, but I do know that they come with a life time warranty as well as the majestic. But to be honest, I really only use it maybe 1 out of every 20 openings(only had 20 so far, got #20 today!) that I do as I can almost always pick it, (<--- based mostly on the years of being a hobbiest vs. the only very few pro jobs I have had)and I only use the pick gun if I cant pick it in the first 10 mins. then its the pick gun, and if that doesn't work it is the EPG. I use this as a last resort because in my opinion it looks like a monkey with an EPG could open a door to the customer and I don't want them to feel like I didn't earn their money.

[Eyes_Only]

Well I only used the six turns on the tensioner dial as an example. Normally I only use like two turns on the dial, rarely ever more then that. I say that the Ilco is a weak gun because when I let the pick needle from the Ilco gun stike my finger, I feel less impact from it then when I strike it with my E-Z pick gun. The E-Z pick gun hurts.