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Comb picks US

Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.

Comb picks US

Postby Lockdown27 » 20 Jan 2008 19:39

Any one have any idea where to get comb picks in US?
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Postby dougfarre » 20 Jan 2008 19:51

Good question.
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Postby cool-arrow » 20 Jan 2008 19:56

I think Vrocco had some for sale a while ago, you might want to PM him and see if they are still available. As soon as I clear out my garage I am going to start making some for common US locks. I wouldn't hold your breath for me though.
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Postby delocking » 20 Jan 2008 20:03

I seem to spend way too much time searching to see which tools are available from which suppliers :oops: The only place I've seen them so far is from http://www.ukbumpkeys.com/comb.html but the exchange rate at the moment might make them a tad more expensive :( I seem to remember a thread here not that long ago that also mentioned a place in Singapore. Strange I've not seen any State side suppliers advertising them :shock:
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Postby vrocco » 20 Jan 2008 20:07

I'll save you a pm.....I sold the set I had. :lol:
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Postby freakparade3 » 20 Jan 2008 21:31

Aren't these really more of a novelty? If there is not enough clearance for the pins the comb will not work. Not many locks will be vulnerable to this.
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Postby mcm757207 » 20 Jan 2008 21:53

freakparade3 wrote:Aren't these really more of a novelty? If there is not enough clearance for the pins the comb will not work. Not many locks will be vulnerable to this.


Some common locks are very vulnerable to these, for example the master lock #140.
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Re: Comb picks US

Postby grim » 11 Feb 2008 16:01

Lockdown27 wrote:Any one have any idea where to get comb picks in US?


simply looks like a product to facilitate a method called "overlifting". i try not to do this as it generally crushes the springs and often renders the lock unusable. but if all else has failed...

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Postby op-sec » 11 Feb 2008 22:40

mcm151201 wrote:
freakparade3 wrote:Aren't these really more of a novelty? If there is not enough clearance for the pins the comb will not work. Not many locks will be vulnerable to this.


Some common locks are very vulnerable to these, for example the master lock #140.


But the #140 is so easy to pick as it stands, why bother with a Comb?
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Postby op-sec » 11 Feb 2008 22:45

Maybe I have a bad #140 or something but, just to make sure I wasn't talking smack, I just pulled out the #140 and SPP'd it in less than 5 seconds 5 times in a row with a flex tension wrench and a short hook. It doesn't matter if I start at pin 4 or pin 1, I can open it in less than 5 secs. I really was disappointed in the #140. Then again, I was disappointed in the #911 and #930 too.
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Postby dmux » 12 Feb 2008 9:56

i dont think one pick would work on many locks, you would need a lot of them to work on a lot of locks
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Comb Picks - Bump Keys

Postby cApTeN ICON » 25 Feb 2008 0:59

On the website lockpickersmall dot com, under the catalog category of "Bump Keys" there are some keys that resemble comb picks. Here is another website that may help also.

bumpkey dot us


Basically, I was just searching for bump keys and found that they resemble comb picks. Hope it helps in some way.
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Postby raimundo » 25 Feb 2008 12:09

think about it, dmux, most locks are going to be five pin, and with some spacing and pin diameter that is really within a very small ballpark, so it may be possible to make a standard set of comb picks that contain the variations necessary to comb pick just about any fivepin lock that are susceptable to this.

you would not make the teeth of the comb completely as wide as the diameter of the pins, by saving a few thousands of tolerance here, you make the comb slimmer and it will fit in other spacings, these things are picks after all, so they will not try to fill the whole tolerance of the lock, just work inside the tolerance.

If youve ever seen a slide rule, and learned how many things it can do, you would understand, but you may never have even heard of a slide rule, its old school.
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Postby Abus » 26 Mar 2008 18:43

It has been a while, but I made a few once, set up around the KW1 spacing. They would work on a few locks, but often to get enough lift, the spring retainer would be popped off, leaving pins, springs and whatnot strewn about.

Mostly a novelty in my opinion on common US locks, and very prone to damaging the lock.
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Postby vitti » 26 Mar 2008 22:33

Seems clear that these would be a last resort tool but also seems simple enough to make them using key spacing charts for the keyways you'd be most likely to encounter.

A micrometer and a dremel should be all the tools you'd need to crank out a set.
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