Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.
by vmars » 7 Jul 2012 0:46
Hello After frequently locking myself out of my house (due to the style of the front door auto-locking), I've decided to invest in a lock-pick. I'm not interested in the art or sport of lockpicking, I would just like to be able to easily get in whenever I lock myself out. The neighbourhood I live in isn't exactly secure, so I can't leave a window open or an extra key (people have broken into my car previously and stolen my extra key). Anyway, I'm looking at choosing a lockpick from this website - http://www.gadgetsdirect.com.au/index.p ... &cPath=160. I'm wondering whether to get an automatic lockpick or a manual one. Which one is more effective and last longer? Which one will be easier? I know there will be some learning, but I'll only learn as much as necessary, as I have no other reason to use the skills. Thanks
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by Squelchtone » 7 Jul 2012 2:35
So you forget your keys a lot and get locked out, but you're suddenly going to remember to always have a lock pick set on you? We've seen this type of flawed logic here from dozens of people who have visited here over the years. Carry a key around your neck on dog tags if you get locked out so much, or carry a spare key in your wallet or purse, or get friendly with at least 1 trust worthy neighbor who can keep a spare key for you. Or get a GE Supra /AccessPoint key safe that mounts next to your door frame and uses a push button code to open a metal door where you keep a spare key.
and another thing.. extra key in your car and someone knew it was there and broke it and took it? I hope you had your locks rekeyed/replaced after that happened. So. you're locked out, don't have house keys but have the car keys to go get the spare house key locked in the car? I'm suddenly not buying your story.
sorry.. something isn't adding up here...
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by vmars » 7 Jul 2012 3:00
I don't like what you think you are presuming. I'm not going to be carrying the lock-picking device around, its going to be stored outside the house in my tool shed, as I'm sure it looks much more like a tool than a key. Considering the shed doesn't have a door, I don't think its going to be a problem getting the 'tool'. For some reason I've never had a tool stolen even though it can be accessed easily in my backyard. Maybe that's because people to prefer items of value instead of tools...
Anyway I don't know why I bothered, I don't need to explain myself to you. All I want is some advice.
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by O_OBruce » 7 Jul 2012 3:29
You could try a few things before you go out and spend a lot of time and money to solve a problem after the fact.
1. Get an extra key. Give 1 to a neighbor, 2. Put a key on a string and wear it. 3. Get a key hook that clips to your belt get in the habit of wearing it
4.Change your lock so it does not auto lock. 5. Take a class on improving your memory,reducing stress in your life or analyzing why you keep locking yourself out. 6.Buy a gift card from locksmith, that way you will be a prepaid customer. Learning how to pick your front Lock won't help you if your picks are locked inside.
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by vmars » 7 Jul 2012 3:32
Alright, number 4 seems like a good idea. How much do you think it would cost to change a lock?
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by MBI » 7 Jul 2012 3:34
vmars wrote:I don't like what you think you are presuming. I'm not going to be carrying the lock-picking device around, its going to be stored outside the house in my tool shed, as I'm sure it looks much more like a tool than a key. Considering the shed doesn't have a door, I don't think its going to be a problem getting the 'tool'. For some reason I've never had a tool stolen even though it can be accessed easily in my backyard. Maybe that's because people to prefer items of value instead of tools...
Anyway I don't know why I bothered, I don't need to explain myself to you. All I want is some advice.
Squelchtone gave you some advice, which I'll reiterate. Buy a spare key and a locking combination key box which you can bolt somewhere secure, maybe under a shelf or workbench in your shed. You'll pay about the same for that as you would for the lockpick sets you've linked, and it'll be MUCH easier to use. Learning to pick takes some practice and effort. It's also a perishable skill; if you don't practice it, your skills will get rusty. From what you've said here, it doesn't sound like you're interested in investing much time in developing and maintaining the skill you'll need to "easily get in" whenever you lock yourself out. Does seem a bit odd, you say you don't live in a secure area, yet you have a shed with no door and you've never had a tool stolen.
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by keysman » 7 Jul 2012 3:39
vmars wrote:Anyway I don't know why I bothered, I don't need to explain myself to you. All I want is some advice.
You should buy at least 1 of each of the picks / electric pick guns ... that way when you lock yourself out AGAIN.. you know what tools you should have... Well... you got your FREE advise, YOUR WELCOME.. we don't know why you bothered either.
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by Legion303 » 7 Jul 2012 3:58
vmars wrote:I'm not interested in the art or sport of lockpicking, I would just like to be able to easily get in whenever I lock myself out.
Your best bet is a lockpick shaped just like your door key, well-hidden in your unlocked shed. Or you could make a habit of making sure your keys are on you before you lock the door. -steve
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by atticRR » 7 Jul 2012 9:56
open door. fill hole that the door latches into with clear epoxy, cover with clear tape so it doesnt run down the jamb. After it cures your door will shut and feel locked but it wont be! everyone will be fooled!
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by Darkness1569 » 7 Jul 2012 10:04
Don’t most of auto locking locks have a switch someplace to turn that feature off, and make it so you have to lock it manually? All of the ones that I have seen so far do.
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by Evan » 8 Jul 2012 10:48
vmars wrote:I don't like what you think you are presuming. I'm not going to be carrying the lock-picking device around, its going to be stored outside the house in my tool shed, as I'm sure it looks much more like a tool than a key. Considering the shed doesn't have a door, I don't think its going to be a problem getting the 'tool'. For some reason I've never had a tool stolen even though it can be accessed easily in my backyard. Maybe that's because people to prefer items of value instead of tools...
Anyway I don't know why I bothered, I don't need to explain myself to you. All I want is some advice.
@vmars: Presumption ? No... Previously observed behavioral pattern which you are repeating: Yes... Replace your lock with one which requires the key used to lock it from the outside of the door, like a deadbolt lock... Problem solved... Or you could do like others here have recommended and install a Supra key safe somewhere outside where it is well protected using a decent combination that isn't your birthday or address... That way you would also be able to allow people other than yourself to gain non-destructive entry to your home when you are not there by telling them where said key safe is located and the code to open it... Asking for advice is one thing, making your initial posting asking such borderline questions where there is a long history of troublesome motives behind such a concept is clearly coming from someone who did not read the rules or didn't care anyway and is being willfully disrespectful... ~~ Evan
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