pickmasters fiber picks?

[Hyperion]

Anyone seen these new fiber picks?? or tried them out??

Linkt o site below...
http://www.pickmasters.net/intro/intro.html

Just wondered if anyone had tried them, or if they are known within the industry as a usable tool??

Regards Hyperion

[salzi684]

The most positive review that I have ever heard for those things was "worthless"

[stick]

I'm pretty sure it was something worse than "worthless".

[iworathong]

yep a quick search reveals that worthless dosnt even compare, maybe POS would work in my view....if you think about it it dosnt seem even logical. =)

[mcm757207]

Anyone seen these new fiber picks??

And they aren't exactly "new" either, they have been around for a while.

[MrB]

I'll accept if people say they don't have much success with them, since hard evidence beats theory every time, but the principle of operation actually seems reasonable.

When you rake a lock with a normal pick, you have to be sensitive to any pins already set when you cross those pins and back off with the upward force to avoid unsetting them. Using a fibre pick, there is some give in the pick that should allow it to glide over set pins more easily without dislodging them, while still giving enough upward force to set the pins that are not set yet.

Personally, I wouldn't write off the whole concept so readily. Maybe the actual design needs a bit of refinement, or the user needs a bit more skill?

[plot]

MrB, yea, sounds good in theory... just doesn't sound practical at all.

It's combining impressining and bumping with actual pics... and not coming out to good.

[Hyperion]

Great, thanks people, I wont go near them them

Unless I come across them one day and have the opportunity to try them out.

But after looking around, and the replies in this thread, I think I will stay well away

Regards Hyperion

[raimundo]

If they made one the length of a medeco key, I would buy it. to try out. they seem to have the manufactureing ability, but I just never run into any reviews of them by anyone who has actually tried them out. I'm with MR B on the theory though.

[kodierer]

I asked about these as well, and was told that they are absolute garbage, and that is the reason they are not used. Even if they weren't however, I would assume that they have no sport in them. In that case just by a snap gun.
I made an electric pick from a replacement rake from a jackknife, and one of those vibrating hand razors.

[bembel]

Years ago I made some out of toothbrushes and they really worked on some locks.
I didn't follow this idea very long because I couldn't fix the brushes to my satisfaction.

Personally, I would give them a try, just out of curiosity.

[raimundo]

I once tried to make a long one that would simultaneously work all pins, I used the back of a single edge razor as a basis, I spread it open a bit by pushing another single edge razor sharp edge in to wedge it apart, (be careful, don't cut fingers) then the plan was to super glue some nylon bristles in, after grinding it down to an appropriate size, but the problems came from making a shaft for it. If there are long single edge razors, (I don't know of any) that would help. I did learn that to keep bristles in order while glueing and vise pressing the thing tight, it helps to leave them attached to whatever brush you get them from and only cut them off after the free ends are glued and pinched in the razor back.

[iworathong]

no no dont get me wrong but the theory sounds good and at one time i thought about making one for fun but in itself your expalining it is still theory. like at first i thought: hey lockpicking is easy just go through and set the binding pin now that shouldnt be too hard...now i realize that its really not that easy. so its all theory like the theory of lockpicking is reletivly easy but its not very good mechanically and i suspect the same with these fiber picks and from what i read they dont work and if the pick has the stregnth to set the pins in the first place what makes you so sure that it wont overset the pin like normal rakes? it works in theory but i dont think it would work in real life.=)

[salzi684]

theory of lockpicking is reletivly easy but its not very good mechanically

huh?

[iworathong]

well at least for me when i started picking i thought hey this will be easy! you know just get a pick feel the pins and lift them in order which they bind. but its alot harder when it comes down to the mechanical skills i found that it was alot harder to not overset the pin with the small pins becoming overset and some not being set high enough...so its easy on paper you know just set the pins at the shear line and dont overset them and loosen the tension on security pins determin which it is and reset it with minimal tension and then reset all pins again and it will open but its really really easy to mess up when you first pick up a pick. so in theory it is simple but when you go out and do it it takes lotsa practice....so thats how i think these fiber picks would work =)