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manual and electric pick guns for regular home locks?

Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.

manual and electric pick guns for regular home locks?

Postby Canadian Picker » 14 Feb 2005 20:03

Just wondering how effective both the electric and manual pick guns would be when it comes to regular locks found on house doors?

Like the type of lock that is in the handle/knob itself and the deadbold above?

Thanks a lot:)

Sorry if my newbness bothers you folks :shock:
Well i want to learn the art of lock picking so i think im in the right place:)

Oh i want to know for 'Educational" purposes BTW:p
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Postby Mr Ules » 14 Feb 2005 20:21

A deadbolt or key-in-the-knob usually consists of five or six basic pins. And as we know, these tools work the same as a rake. If These locks had security pins, there would be less of a chance in success.
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Postby silent » 14 Feb 2005 20:22

you should be sorry
Take a look at the search button to the left of groups and the right of rules. Use it and use it often.

Yes they will be effective on most locks on your typical house.
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Postby digital_blue » 14 Feb 2005 20:24

Hi CP.

Pick guns are not exactly a magic bullet. They do require some knowledge and skill to operate. They tend to be awfully noisy, only half reliable, and most importantly, they take all the fun out of picking.

The question I would ask is why do you want to use a pick gun? Is it just to open the lock? It certainly can't be counted as picking (which is why we are all here). If you are interested in lock picking, I'd recommend you keep to the manual picks to develop your skills, rather than relying on automatic tools.

Happy picking!

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Postby Hollywood » 15 Feb 2005 1:38

digital_blue wrote:The question I would ask is why do you want to use a pick gun? Is it just to open the lock? It certainly can't be counted as picking
Happy picking!

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If the lock opens while using a "Pick" Gun i do believe that that does count as Picking it.

whats that gun called again?


Whats wrong with wanting to have all the Tools YOU Can Afford ?

do some people just get upset at the fact that some people can afford Higher priced picking tools.
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Postby digital_blue » 15 Feb 2005 2:04

Hollywood:

1) I simply mean that using a pick gun is not really the same as manual picking, which is what we are all here for, no? CP appears to be new to lockpicking, and I felt it would be more helpful for him to learn solid picking technique, rather than using a pick gun.

2) I really don't see what any of this has to do with being able to afford tools. I own a commercially produced pick gun. I bought it when I first started learning to pick, and before I really understood much of this stuff at all. I can certainly afford the tool, I own the tool, so I can assure you that my comments were not motivated by jealousy, if that is what you were implying.

3) Canadian Picker is new to this forum, and I tend to be at least cautiously suspect of those who come to this site and start asking about pick guns et al early on. On one hand, there is a novelty and attraction for the beginner to a "magic" tool that can open up any lock without any skill at all that has nothing to do with unethical purposes. On the other, I can certainly imagine many people who might look to us for information about these types of tools for nefarious purposes.

If CP is genuinely interested in hobby lockpicking - which I actually suspect is the case - I simply hoped to convey that manual picking is a more pure skill. IMH?O, pick guns are to picking what cheat codes are to gaming.

If CP is actually someone with less than honourable intentions, I wanted to convey that pick guns are not, as I said, a "magic bullet" that will open "regular locks found on house doors".

And lastly, I think my answer was still more valuable to him than just telling him to use the search button, which I admit was my first instinct. :)

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Postby raimundo » 15 Feb 2005 11:40

pick guns appeal to people who cant pick
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Postby Hollywood » 15 Feb 2005 14:04

Digital_blue

I do agree with you 100% on manual Picking.

I guess I was generalizing about so many different post's about people telling others what NOT to buy....

I myself am a Tradesman, and I am the person that likes to master everything about each Particular trade that I'm doing. Not just being slightly knowlegded about some things and some tools.

So I myself tend to buy the tools and learn how to properly use them so that in the future I can pick up that item and know exactly how to properly use it to my benefit..

My Apologies if my post sounded a Lil harsh.

But

like I said if you Want it go out and Buy it.

everything begins buy learning how to manually pick then then it progresses from there.. :wink:
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Postby Hollywood » 15 Feb 2005 18:13

Well it's 6:10 pm and the UPS Truck arrived with a Special delivery for me...





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Postby Hollywood » 15 Feb 2005 18:16

"That Noob is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot"
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Postby MrB » 15 Feb 2005 18:20

Bummer. You have to wait until tomorrow, huh?
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Postby Hollywood » 15 Feb 2005 18:23

LOL
It does have a charge to it. But I can wait :cry:
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Postby RangerF150 » 17 Feb 2005 16:14

Make sure to tell us how you get on with it .

I would however be of the opinion that the fun is in opening a lock with picks, a pickgun would not give me the sense of achievement i get from picking it myself.

But have fun :-)
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Postby CaptHook » 17 Feb 2005 19:24

Pick guns require a level of skill also, you have to be able to sense and adjust the striking force, you have to play wih the wrench etc.
Its all dependant on the person using the tool, and how much time they have spent to become proficient with it.
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Postby archiebald » 20 Feb 2005 12:48

Pick guns are not that easy to use without practice and can bugger the lock up If not used the right way. :)
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