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Postby Rockford » 6 Jan 2006 18:23

Tie one arm to your side, and get your wife to glue a glass to your other hand - no chance of sneaking a fag in then :lol:

Seriously - hope you do it (kick the smokes that is). Keep us updated.
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Postby Shrub » 6 Jan 2006 20:37

If you make it ill Telford you wont make it past it :lol:

Seriously though, well done mate, its all mind over matter, youl feel better for it and haven much more money.
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Postby horsefeathers » 7 Jan 2006 4:45

acl wrote:Pinkys right(dont know about the best of the bunch bit mind!) Lockaid called me a while back and asked me to do a bit for them.They charge 50-55 a callout and i think the guy said i would get 45% of that.Im sure you guess how the rest of the conversation went. Able ,Absolute,RF Lockaid all have at least 3 ads in most Yellow Pages and all positioned before most decent lockies. My local yp has 4x Able, 4xRF,3xAE,3 xsome poxy maintenance co and 2x Aaron !!! all before my ad and my co name is ACL !!
Wayne i see you mentioned possibly doing work for them untill your YP ad comes out.I hear this all the time "ill be ok when my ad in the YP comes out" Wrong! dont think as soon as its out youll be inundated with work because it just wont happen,Why? because of what i outlined above these guys gobble up all the decent work and the others are left with the sh*te and the 3am/bank holiday calls. Dont think im having a dig at you here because im not im just telling you what ive learnt over the years ive been advertising. Look in the last few pages of the lock section of your yp and then take a look in the new edition and see how many of those guys are still advertising. Many of us have in the past done work for them(i did a few jobs for RF yrs ago) and if you have to use them to keep afloat then we cant knock you for that,just take heed of our warnings.
Sorry for ranting on about these w*nkers more than usual but ive not had a drink or a fag for 6 days now and its starting to take its toll.
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Cool advice - of course bills have to be paid and wife/kids kept in the fashion to which they have become accustomed etc, so for now maybe a few jobs from RF etc are gratefully received. I dont expect my phone to ring off the hook once YP ad comes out but at least any work that comes my way by that route will be mine all mine, no 40-50% cut for the nationwides. Plus all work, from whatever source, adds to that knowledge database that resides deep in my skull.

This time next year Rodders I will be a millionaire!

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Postby Shrub » 7 Jan 2006 9:45

Just a quck question, are you drilling mortice locks or picking them? I only ask as all you posts tend to be hinted towards drilling them and im interested if im right or not.
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Postby horsefeathers » 7 Jan 2006 13:18

to be honest I havent had that much work yet, and can probably count the number of mortice lockouts on the fingers of both hands, probably half of which were non-curtained so picked them. Had to drill the other 6 or so using templates. Have been busy playing with CB's curtain pick over last few days - just ready for that call now.....lol. The days of drilling are over (well I hope so but I guess even the best pickers may have to drill the odd lock in a thousand!)

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Postby Shrub » 7 Jan 2006 13:39

Well its good to hear your changing and realised the error of your ways, to many drillers have blinkers on and arent even willing to learn.

All credit to you but a lot of hard work needs to be put in as you probably know.
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Postby taylorgdl » 7 Jan 2006 16:31

Went into my local "specialist key cutter" today for a chat, you know the usual, "what he cuts, range he has in stock, typical customers" etc, turns out he also does a bit of "locksmithing", he goes and drills out the occasional double glazed door lock !

Well, the upside is I know I've got no competion there, and he also has a huge range of blanks, and also does car key fobs. And he doesn't do shoes !!

Downside is there is another driller out and about. But hey, is keys are top notch.

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Postby Rockford » 8 Jan 2006 4:50

You want to strike an agreement with him - you'll give him key cutting work, if he gives you the cylinder openings. Don't hurt to ask.
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