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EVVA Key Blanks

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby Mark A » 4 Oct 2006 17:30

Mike40

It is not possible to obtain the blanks unless you hold the registration.
This is done to protect the suite so that only the correct profile will fit the keyway.
You will have to obtain blanks from the locksmith that supplied the locks.
As he has not passed this over to you the rights to "your" profile belong to him/his company, he could if he wished fit the same profile locks to any other building that he wanted.
Could you not approach him and see if he will transfer this to the school?
You could also find out if he is a member of an association, and if so they may be able to help.

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Postby kodierer » 4 Oct 2006 23:45

Yes call him, and ask who he is bonded through.
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Postby TOWCH » 5 Oct 2006 1:56

There's a machine that can make custom keyblanks but finding someone willing to risk the liability to do that for you won't be easy.

What is your problem with the new locksmith? Excessive prices?

You can post a keyway so we can tell you if it's a keyway blanks are available for.(probably not)

You can change your locks this time making sure that you are the owner of the system and not using someone elses keyway.(You could pay for this by selling the old system on ebay but I'm sure there would be beurocratic difficulties with that plan)

You could try and get replacement plugs for all of the locks with a keyway that you own and repin all the locks yourself which would be a nightmare that wouldn't be worth the effort depending on the system.

You can make your own blanks depending on the lock and your skill level. Ask the metal shop teacher if he can do it.

Or if you are willing to do any of the above, you can tell the locksmith you are dealing with that you are prepared to do so and renegotiate accordingly. This is hardball but a "rekey our school" fundraiser probably wouldn't sound appealing to this locksmith publicity wise.
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Postby horsefeathers » 5 Oct 2006 3:20

Shrub wrote:Tell me, its not a girls school by any chance is it???

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No - totally different part of the country

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Postby kodierer » 5 Oct 2006 11:03

Hmmm If you need dupicates of keys you can try this:
Take a key, and impression it ceramic. Cook the ceramic so you have a mold of your key. Then melt down brass, or nickel, and pour it into your mold and let it cool. That should produce you a working key. Sand it to remove any rough edges. Repeat as necessary.

There is a book on this called the cia guide to field key casting, or something like that. You can purchase it on amazon.com Just use nickel, or brass instead of lead, and use ceramic instead of clay, and cook your mold before you pour metal into it. etc... Might take some playing with as things do change size when heated, and cooled.
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Postby Simon Payne » 6 Oct 2006 9:42

If it is an EVVA registered profile I would try Aldridge on 08444 125101. They have an EVVA department. They may need to see one of your keys to give you an answer if they can help you or not.
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