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HPC Electropick Question

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

HPC Electropick Question

Postby stewroper » 27 Nov 2006 14:31

Hi guys 'n' gals, :D

Just recieved HPC Electropick 2day, I am just charging it for the 1st time, but it says in the instructions " UK model has a MAXIMUM charging time of 6 hours ", my question is, to those that know, does this means that if it is left on charge for over 6 hours that it could cause damage to the pick. :?:
Thanks for your help.

Had a little play with it, and could open a UNION screw in cylinder lock in about 4 seconds, so v exited. 8)
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Postby lockey1963 » 27 Nov 2006 18:18

leaving it on all night has never damaged my guns but has burnt out a charger, they get very hot, follow instructions and only leave for 6 hours first charge to be safe.
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Postby SEVEN » 27 Nov 2006 20:28

overcharging damages the battery and charge is not held as long as should be.
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Postby srv » 28 Nov 2006 9:52

Yep,
Seven's correct. Overcharging is main cause of damage to rechargable batteries....causes overheating which reduces battery life. I always charge mine for around 5-6 hours.
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Postby CVScam » 28 Nov 2006 20:33

I only own electric lock picks that I created myself but the one I made out of a rechagable shaver I have to charge it every few weeks and I can do a LOT of locks before it runs down do the comerical electric picks last as long on one charge?
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Postby scorpiac » 28 Nov 2006 21:24

CVScam wrote:I only own electric lock picks that I created myself but the one I made out of a rechagable shaver I have to charge it every few weeks and I can do a LOT of locks before it runs down do the comerical electric picks last as long on one charge?


Rechargeable electric razor huh... Pretty ingenious idea would love to see some pictures and or a breakdown of that project!
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Postby parapilot » 29 Nov 2006 9:16

Does anyone know why the HPC on lockpicks.com is $165 and for a UK gun its $240? Why not just buy a $1 plug adaptor?????
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Postby Keyring » 29 Nov 2006 10:14

Plug adapters don't change the voltage from 110V to 230V!

Although you could just buy a £5 power supply once you knew what voltage and connector was needed.
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Postby IC-Johnny » 29 Nov 2006 11:09

Any deveice that uses the nickle-cadmium type rechargeable batteries should be charged to the manufacturer's recommendation for their first charge. Overcharging them will only shorten the battery's lifetime.

Another recommendation I could share with you is to allow the battery to run out completely prior to re-charging the unit. I know it's second nature to want the device to be on "hot standby", fully charged and ready to go for the next use.

The problem with the NiCad batteries is that if you use the device, say for ten minutes at a time, then immediately re-charge it for another six hours, the batteries will quickly develop the "memory effect". Basically, this means that the batteries will eventually be expected to provide you with ten minutes of usage for the full time charge cycle. Under those conditions only expect a year's use and you will be replacing the batteries.

The best thing is to use the device until it shows signs of slowing down, then let the unit run down completely before recharging. That will give you the longest lifetime that is expectable for those batteries.

If the batteries provided with the unit are nickle-metal-hydride they will not be affected by the same memory effect. Nickle metal hydride batteries are lighter in weight and provide an even amount of current availability, but when they run out, they do so very fast.

Here in the US Nickel Cadmium batteries are an environmental disposal problem. There is something about the chemical break-down of the cadmium. This may be a factor in pricing the unit, because some countries may require the use of nickel-metal-hydride (NiMh), instead of the NiCad type. The extra cost in those type of batteries may make up for the price difference of being "environmentally friendly"

With regard to the idea of changing the power supply for the 230 V European system, that's a good idea, but make sure that the power supply you purchase uses the exact same voltage, and most importantly, the same current rating. This current rating is usually expressed in milliamps [ma] or in Europe, this may be referred to as Volt-Amps [va].

Just my 2 cents!
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Postby Keyring » 29 Nov 2006 12:34

The only issue I have with that is that I doubt that the charging circuit in the tool relies on the external power supply to act as a current limit, so the only important consideration would be to have at least the current output capability of the original charger, rather than the same current capability. Having said that there can be a problem with a power supply which is not marked as 'regulated', in that the voltage displayed on the label is the voltage that the output falls to when the stated load current is being drawn. Off load it can be much higher. I try to use supplies marked 'regulated', in which case an indicated higher current capability than required is irrelevant.
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Postby stewroper » 29 Nov 2006 14:33

Hi Guys :D

Thanks a lot for all ur great advice .
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