Mortice Locks

by **jason** » 27 May 2004 9:38

I'm guessing that it's as "poor man's mica". I used to use margarine lids!

by **Ivan** » 27 May 2004 11:56

Yep - was being stupid - I knew that - just had glass bottle stuck in mind somewhere. Der

by **Safekey** » 27 May 2004 16:20

Spot on Jason :lol:

Theros: I can't speak for others, but my reason's for not sharing drill points is that this site is about lockpicking not lockdrilling.
Those who want to know how to and where to drill locks will find the information they require by opening up a mortice lock and measuring it.

This is not meant to sound sarcastic in anyway, I assure you, but if I told you the drill point of a Chubb 114 for example, how would you indentify the lock to use the drill point :?:

You need, not only the drill point, but the knowledge to identify the lock from the outside of the door in question.
I have a list on my computer of approx 100 different mortice locks and about 20 safe locks with a description of the lock, its workings, its differs etc. etc. etc.: All of this information has been gained over quite a few years of doing exactly what I wrote previously... take the lock apart and study it. After some time, you will have all the drill points you need.

by **toomush2drink** » 30 May 2004 9:12

sorry removed this post

by **Safekey** » 30 May 2004 9:24

Good kit Toomush.

Funny you should mention Securefast, as I have just come back from a job in Bexleyheath, which was a Securefast. Didnt need a pick or drill. One of these souber jumbo escutcehons was stuck to the door, so removed it to find the bolt stump in full view via the long cut out on the case. Very poor fitting, and the client agreed once he saw how quick we were in. We are now fitting him a new door on Tuesday with some decent locks and London bar.

by **toomush2drink** » 30 May 2004 9:30

Can you believe it i live about 5 mins from there !!
Shame i missed out on that one for the easy money :wink:

by **Safekey** » 30 May 2004 10:32

Heres some things to considder (For when you go it alone !)

No such thing as easy money. Got stuck in the Blackwall tunnel, spent 2 hours driving, 1 hour on site, changed yale cylinder and made new key for securefast (Probably the worst lock in the world) Chatted to client about new door (Had brochures) Got paid Â£175.00 + vat.
(Plus return job for new door. Quoted Â£400.00)
Dont usually do jobs out in the sticks, simply because of the travel involved, but thought, 'Why not - it's Sunday - Roads quiet'

Whats been used:

3 Hours of my time on a Sunday afternoon.
Van, Petrol, Insurance, Tax and Maintenance.
Screw drivers and Mica.
Yale cylinder
Mortice machine and blank (Genuine for securefast)
Generator for mortice machine.
Brochures for doors, locks and hardware.
Credit card machine (Mobile)
Stationary. (Receipt pad and Order Form)
Business insurance and other overheads.
Mobile phone to call the client out of the pub! (Where I should have been)

Maybe I should have subcontracted it to you eh !

by **toomush2drink** » 30 May 2004 11:00

That tunnel can be a nightmare i agree, also i know its all costs on top of the job at hand as i have been paying out left right and centre setting up this business. Dosent it just add up what with the credit card machine and advertising, paperwork etc. Im glad i have a full time job to fund this and im not about to give it up till work is flooding in. I must say i was bit surprised where your job was as i thought oh dear he's the competition LOL. Still looks like you had result with the job as a whole with the door and that. No doubt some comments will be made in this thread by those who just see the money and not the effort required to bring in that money :lol:

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