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European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby Charlie511 » 26 Aug 2007 11:29

bluestar wrote:
greyman wrote:Looks like a modern version of a Scandinavian (disc) padlock.


You mean AVA? Yes, from the keyway I'd have said AVA, but the key looks completely different.

@Charlie511: If it's a warded lock, did you pick it so far?


I didnt tray to pick it yet, because i dont have picks for this type of lock, they are in progress.
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Postby greyman » 26 Aug 2007 16:37

bluestar wrote:
greyman wrote:Looks like a modern version of a Scandinavian (disc) padlock.


You mean AVA? Yes, from the keyway I'd have said AVA, but the key looks completely different.
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No, I didn't mean Ava. Scandinavian disc padlocks have been around for a couple of hundred years, well before Ava was invented. There are types that use pin-tumbler like keys but they aren't pin tumbler mechanisms - they are rotating disc locks, each disc locks the shackle.
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Postby Al » 11 Sep 2007 18:25

Another one to ID
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Postby Fredmad » 12 Sep 2007 2:25

Al wrote:Another one to ID
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i think it's an ANKER
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Postby Al » 13 Sep 2007 6:02

Good answer, is that a guess? The circlips are different to normal Anker cylinders.
I first thought Pfaffenheim or Ankerslot but could not find any corresponding locks or round bow keys on their websites.
However, the firm that imports these from a 'Major European Lock Manufacturer' have a confidentiality agreement preventing them from telling me where. So they claim.
Mods can you delete the doubles please.
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Postby Fredmad » 17 Sep 2007 5:09

Al wrote:Good answer, is that a guess? The circlips are different to normal Anker cylinders.
I first thought Pfaffenheim or Ankerslot but could not find any corresponding locks or round bow keys on their websites.
However, the firm that imports these from a 'Major European Lock Manufacturer' have a confidentiality agreement preventing them from telling me where. So they claim.
Mods can you delete the doubles please.


Dear Al
I said it was an Anker because i have some cylinders in my company witch look like your photo and it's some Anker . This kind of Anker is manufactured with restrited profile so that you can't copy the key.
I'm sure you know the principle. If you sell one of the 256 profiles of this Anker witch exist you are allowed to copy the key of your profil but not the another etc...
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Postby Fournine » 8 Oct 2007 6:50

I thought of Pfaffenhein too.
Could it be a modular GERA?
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A new mystery lock!

Postby greyman » 11 Oct 2007 14:52

OK trendsetters, it's been too long coming, I know, but here is your next challenge! :)

You have to specify the country, the brand and the model for the lock whose key is shown below. Good luck!

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Postby lockpicker69 » 11 Oct 2007 15:56

looks like one of the old Egyptian type keys lol but is probably some sort of safe/vault key, i havent a clue on the brand or model. do you remember the tv series ask the family? where there was a close up of a certain object and you had to guess what it was .if nobody guessed right the object would get bigger. that was a good game show i wish it was back on the tv now
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Re: A new mystery lock!

Postby Jaakko » 11 Oct 2007 17:42

greyman wrote:OK trendsetters, it's been too long coming, I know, but here is your next challenge! :)

You have to specify the country, the brand and the model for the lock whose key is shown below. Good luck!

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/gpulford/Locks/mystery13.jpg

Rosengrens RKL-10, Swedish
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Postby bluestar » 12 Oct 2007 2:53

Shouldn't a RKL-10 key be double-bitted? At least the keys I know of...
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Re: A new mystery lock!

Postby greyman » 12 Oct 2007 3:37

Jaakko wrote:Rosengrens RKL-10, Swedish


Keep guessing! I'll give you a hint - it's not Swedish.
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Postby mh » 12 Oct 2007 11:13

Well, French, then.
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Re: A new mystery lock!

Postby aussielocky » 12 Oct 2007 17:31

greyman wrote:OK trendsetters, it's been too long coming, I know, but here is your next challenge! :)

You have to specify the country, the brand and the model for the lock whose key is shown below. Good luck!

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German, Arnhiem, model escapes me ..
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Postby greyman » 13 Oct 2007 12:09

aussielocky - very good (although I can see you aren't guessing :wink: )

It is a LamellenSchloss by Arnheim in Germany. The lock/key are not mine, unfortunately :( Here are some more pictures:

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As you can see, the key is folding and has bittings for 9 levers (I think). One side of the bit is "female" - this is because there are a series of variable length sliding prongs inside the keyway. The key pushes the prongs so that they contact the circular levers and rotate them to line up the gates. Notice how the bolt stump actually has a kink in it.
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