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Burg-Bund

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Burg-Bund

Postby Raymond » 29 May 2010 18:55

I have picked this lock but found it to be awkward and difficult. I had to hold it in a vise and use two picks inside. I needed a third hand. Is there a more professional method for picking this lock? Is this one that a common 2 in 1 would be used?

I think it has five levers plus the bolt. Please clarify and correct me. I do not want to cut it open.

Thanks

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Re: Burg-Bund

Postby scholls » 7 Jul 2010 12:19

Hi!

I'm pretty sure your lock was manufactured by the German company "Burg Wächter" and I have a 4-lever padlock which is probably very similar to yours:
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Since it is a lever lock which you preferably pick with a Hobbs pick, there is no other way than to use 2 tools. One to tension at the back and one to lift the levers. These locks tend to have very strong springs so maybe that's what made it awkward for you.

Take a look at this video to see what's going on inside the lock:
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There might also be the possibility to impression your lock with smoked blanks (given that you got some that fit)...but that's another story...

Good luck!

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Re: Burg-Bund

Postby weerwolf » 7 Jul 2010 14:38

I often see these locks. They are often used on the beach. The flap prevents sand from entering the lock.
We can copy these keys , getting the keyblank isn't that hard.
Most of the ones i see are from ABUS. They are a bit different to the one Scholls is showing. In the Abus lock , there are 2 levers that block the shackle.
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Re: Burg-Bund

Postby Raymond » 7 Jul 2010 21:39

Thanks for the great explanation and photos. This kind of reply is what makes this site so great.

My padlock was given to me by a German soldier who had lost the keys. I have blanks that will fit and believe that it is a key retaining padlock. This means that I can very easily impression the key as the levers are frozen in place by the bolt fence.

I guess I will have to research the 'Hobbs pick' as to sizes and costs.

Thanks again.
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Re: Burg-Bund

Postby weerwolf » 8 Jul 2010 5:47

The ones I have are not Key-retaining.
I have never really impressioned one , but I think they should be relatively easy , with the strong springs. When i cut a key for these , that isn't quite there yet , you can see clear marks where to file. So it shouldn't be too difficult to impression.

The hobbs pick is also reffered to as 2 in 1 pick. There is a sticky DIY topic on these.
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