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tubular locks

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Re: tubular locks

Postby katie_saunders » 20 Jul 2010 8:57

Rickthepick wrote::roll: :roll: :roll: To be honest it would be easier to pay the 50p you wont pick a modern vending lock with a tubular impressioning tool.


i would like to think your right but the new south0rd would according to the lock website. However i would rather pay but it would be cool to find out if it could be done dont ya think?
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Re: tubular locks

Postby EmCee » 20 Jul 2010 9:14

katie_saunders wrote:i would like to think your right but the new south0rd would according to the lock website
Remember when mum told you never to believe anything you read in the papers? Well, the same caveat can be applied to information on the website of vendors who want to sell you their products.

katie_saunders wrote:...but it would be cool to find out if it could be done dont ya think?
Not so much 'cool' as a 'criminal offence' for which you would be 'going equipped'.

I have a feeling katie isn't long for this website.

Cheers...
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Re: tubular locks

Postby katie_saunders » 20 Jul 2010 13:58

EmCee wrote:
katie_saunders wrote:i would like to think your right but the new south0rd would according to the lock website
Remember when mum told you never to believe anything you read in the papers? Well, the same caveat can be applied to information on the website of vendors who want to sell you their products.

katie_saunders wrote:...but it would be cool to find out if it could be done dont ya think?
Not so much 'cool' as a 'criminal offence' for which you would be 'going equipped'.

I have a feeling katie isn't long for this website.

Cheers...


I am guessing your bright and know the law. well kind of picture this. You are sitting down picking a tubular lock and it opens it is a vending machine tubular lock a police officer comes a long and arrests you and then you provide evidence that you own the lock in question "because its yours and you brought the second hand lock" and then the police get sued for unlawful arrest.

in other words you cant get arrested for picking your own lock.
I trust the locksmith who has been in the trade for years and knows what he is talking about.

The info provided about the newer pick says

"This version tubular lock replaced the older model back in 2004 and is simply one of the best around. The pick allows adjustment of picking needle pressure, giving them the versatility to pick even tubular locks with higher spring pressures. Seven pin tubular locks are by far the most common seen but if you're unsure which to get look inside the lock and count the pins.

Each pick has a comfortable, slip resistant rubber handle and is available in seven or eight pin configuration.
Each Tubular lock also comes with a decoder key to enable you to measure the depths of the needles to cut a key for the lock or to enable you to re-code the tubular lock pick for the same lock. "

iv seen this guy picking tubular locks.

I wont be here long because i want to pick my own locks? Ok. Well i was here for a long time before i re registed when i lost my login details so whatever floats your boat
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Re: tubular locks

Postby Rickthepick » 21 Jul 2010 2:33

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Re: tubular locks

Postby katie_saunders » 21 Jul 2010 14:13

Rickthepick wrote:Image
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cool drawing. do it yourself rick?

that is my name name to. small world
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Re: tubular locks

Postby raimundo » 22 Jul 2010 9:08

unless there are some ward pins (smaller steel pins inserted between the spacing of the tumblers. these steel pins are not moveable and work as wards, keeping similiar keys out of the keyway) and its quite doubtful that you have warded locks.

Your locks look like common seven pin locks, the pins are spaced on a circle that is cut into eight equal sections, 7 of them are pins and the eighth is the space for the keystock pickup. that notch in the center stem.

they appear to be quarter turn unless the photo is reversed, then they could be 270 degree turns, they will be built for applications turning clockwise, with key removeal in the locked or open position.

Leave a bic biro pen near a warming source that will make it more plastic and then you could open these locks by the now famous plastic pen method,

To see posts about this look around 2004 and 2005, look for the search term kryptonite. the same cylinders are in these locks
You may also want to familiarize yourself with the ACEII lock variant, Its not one of those you show, but if you buy a tool you want to know the locks.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: tubular locks

Postby alfabravo » 4 Aug 2010 14:27

hi guys!

i'm new here and want to exchange some info with you. i've recently spotted some kind of a new tubular lock(i think so?). i've seen it on a vending machine. it works as i examined it on reverse mechanical basics as "ordinary" tubular lock. it looks like this:

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do you know what brand this lock could be? how does the key looks like? how do you imagine the pick for it will look like? are there any on the market? my idea is it would be very similiar to ordinary tubular pick but with poles rather than wide pieces of metal(eg. cleaner bristles).

hope to have some discussion here:)
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Re: tubular locks

Postby alfabravo » 30 Aug 2010 6:40

ojk. i've found in steve's hampton high security lock that this is van lock

http://www.vanlock.com/

and it can be picked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opsgDNYJmBc

i'm still wondering is there a tool similiar to ordinary tubular lock pick which impressions all pins and set's them all at a time. i haven't seen anywhere such device for locksmiths but considering making your own should work.
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Re: tubular locks

Postby pinfox » 6 Oct 2010 7:08

alfabravo wrote:hi guys!

i'm new here and want to exchange some info with you. i've recently spotted some kind of a new tubular lock(i think so?). i've seen it on a vending machine. it works as i examined it on reverse mechanical basics as "ordinary" tubular lock. it looks like this:

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do you know what brand this lock could be? how does the key looks like? how do you imagine the pick for it will look like? are there any on the market? my idea is it would be very similiar to ordinary tubular pick but with poles rather than wide pieces of metal(eg. cleaner bristles).

hope to have some discussion here:)






I have seen this lock used on trainstations in Europe on the ticket machines money box. So high security for sure.
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Re: tubular locks

Postby Rickthepick » 6 Oct 2010 7:26

there is a pick for these but its expensive. They arent so difficult to pick, getting the tension is the tough bit
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Re: tubular locks

Postby pinfox » 6 Oct 2010 9:46

Rickthepick wrote:there is a pick for these but its expensive. They arent so difficult to pick, getting the tension is the tough bit



You dont really need to pick this lock. It comes with several different keys (i think 7). If you start with key number 1 and loose it, then you can re-program the lock to key number two. You do this with a reset key. I believe all sets come with two of theese.

So you can loose your key 7 times before you need to pick it ;-)
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