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?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby ARF-GEF » 25 May 2013 8:18

So when I casually pick Euro profile cylinders I usually "cheat" a little bit and tension it by putting pressure on the "actuator".

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I call the black thing on the middle actuator I'm not totally sure if that's correct.

(I know I loose some feedback that way but it's more comfortable, and it's not the point :) )

So the problem is:
I feel that on the locks I do this regularly, the actuator becomes a bit wobbly... OR at least seem to have an increased "play"...

Does anyone had similar experience?
Do you think repeated/extended pressure on the actuator damages the lock on the long run?
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Re: ?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 May 2013 9:20

While I do not have tons of experience with euro profile locks, I do have a fair bit. The lock cylinders on each side have a movable part the key pushes into the actuator when the key is fully inserted. This part is usually shaped as a rectangle, a half circle, or some mixture.

Using the actuator puts stress on this part, and may increase wear of the slot into which that movable part slides into (uh-oh... time for a comment from fgarci03 :mrgreen: ). The wear on the moving part or the slot is probably what you are feeling as the actuator becomes a little more 'sloppy'. If you are using a vice, you might want to switch to TOK tensioning.

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Re: ?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby ARF-GEF » 25 May 2013 10:19

Yea,h I know, the 2 roundish thinks riveted together in the middle. Not sure about the English name.
But do you think this damages the slot significantly?
It is not too obvious, maybe I just feel it getting more "loose" while in fact the damage is not as big.
For example repeated raking of a lock can lead to damage in the pins too, but I don't consider that significant either :)

When I use a vice I usually use TOK too. I only use "push-the-actuator" tension when I'm sitting on the ocuch with the lock in 1 hand pick in the other. :)
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Re: ?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 May 2013 10:39

I used to do that as well. I do not think the damage is significant, either.

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Re: ?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby fgarci03 » 25 May 2013 14:34

GWiens2001 wrote:may increase wear of the slot into which that movable part slides into (uh-oh... time for a comment from fgarci03 :mrgreen: ).

Yes, those things can wear down if you slide it to often.

My stick weared down the hole where I put it.
The hole is not tight anymore and the stick falls down.



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I also don't believe it's significant. I don't do that many times so I can't be sure, but that's my 2cents :lol:
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Re: ?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby Solomon » 27 May 2013 9:24

Sup AG! The part you're applying tension to is called the cam. I doubt it'd cause any real damage but you never know. Why not just tension like a regular person? :mrgreen:

Seriously though, you'll get a lot more feedback and control using a wrench. :wink:
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Re: ?Euro profile locks damaged by tensioning?

Postby ARF-GEF » 27 May 2013 10:52

Hey Sol! Good to hear from you! :)
Thanks for the answer(both you and everyone else too :) )!

I know it's better to tension properly, but when I'm laying on the couch like a blob of laziness I find it more comfy to just press on the cam (thanks!:) ) with my thumb.
I'll head to the advice try to "potty train" myself to using regular TOK tension :)
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