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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 19:37
The only thing i could think of when the person had the key, yet the lock body locked itself (or dead locked rather) when the door shut was to drill where the pins where and hammer the cylinder against the innards of the mechanism.
Thus bumping the lock body deadlocking latch jobby open.
Is there any non destructive options when this happens, i have never had this happen to me before!!
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by lockey1963 » 8 Dec 2006 19:45
only a through the letterbox opening, undoing the snib.
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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 19:48
Back door, no letter box!!
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by UWSDWF » 8 Dec 2006 19:49
go through the front
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by toomush2drink » 8 Dec 2006 19:52
I opened one last night with no letterbox and no damage so it is possible without drilling but only in certain circumstances
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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 19:54
how did you open without letter box, im interested.
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by UWSDWF » 8 Dec 2006 19:55
everyone knows that....

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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 19:58
Is that your way of opening a door??!!
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by UWSDWF » 8 Dec 2006 19:59
and killing vicious rabbits with TEETH
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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 20:03
I'm missing something somewhere
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by UWSDWF » 8 Dec 2006 20:07
MontyPython and the Quest for the Holy Grail
Scene 33
[clop clop whinny]
KNIGHT: They're nervous, sire.
ARTHUR: Then we'd best leave them here and carry on on foot. Dis-mount!
TIM: Behold the cave of Kyre Banorg!
ARTHUR: Right! Keep me covered.
KNIGHT: What with?
ARTHUR: Just keep me covered.
TIM: Too late!
[chord]
ARTHUR: What?
TIM: There he is!
ARTHUR: Where?
TIM: There!
ARTHUR: What, behind the rabbit?
TIM: It is the rabbit!
ARTHUR: You silly sod! You got us all worked up!
TIM: Well, that's no ordinary rabbit. That's the most foul, cruel,
and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on.
ROBIN: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared!
TIM: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a
killer!
KNIGHT: Get stuffed!
TIM: It'll do you a trick, mate!
KNIGHT: Oh, yeah?
ROBIN: You mangy Scot git!
TIM: I'm warning you!
ROBIN: What's he do, nibble your bum?
TIM: He's got huge, sharp-- he can leap about-- look at the bones!
ARTHUR: Go on, Boris. Chop his head off!
BORIS: Right! Silly little bleeder. One rabbit stew comin' right up!
TIM: Look!
[squeak]
BORIS: Aaaugh!
[chord]
ARTHUR: !
TIM: I warned you!
ROBIN: I peed again!
TIM: I warned you! But did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all,
didn't you? Oh, it's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it? Well,
it's always the same, I always--
ARTHUR: Oh, shut up!
TIM: --But do they listen to me?--
ARTHUR: Right!
TIM: -Oh, no--
KNIGHTS: Charge!
[squeak squeak]
KNIGHTS: Aaaaugh! Aaaugh! etc.
KNIGHTS: Run away! Run away!
TIM: Haw haw haw. Haw haw haw. Haw haw.
ARTHUR: Right. How many did we lose?
KNIGHT: Gawain.
KNIGHT: Hector.
ARTHUR: And Boris. That's five.
GALAHAD: Three, sir.
ARTHUR: Three. Three. And we'd better not risk another frontal
assault, that rabbit's dynamite.
ROBIN: Would it help to confuse it if we run away more?
ARTHUR: Oh, shut up and go and change your armor.
GALAHAD: Let us taunt it! It may become so cross that it will make
a mistake.
ARTHUR: Like what?
GALAHAD: Well,....
ARTHUR: Have we got bows?
KNIGHT: No.
LAUNCELOT: We have the Holy Hand Grenade.
ARTHUR: Yes, of course! The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch! 'Tis one
of the sacred relics Brother Maynard carries with him! Brother Maynard!
Bring up the Holy Hand Grenade!
[singing]
How does it, uh... how does it work?
KNIGHT: I know not, my liege.
ARTHUR: Consult the Book of Armaments!
MAYNARD: Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.
BROTHER: "And Saint Atila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying,
'Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou mayest blow
thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin, and
people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies,
and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large --"
MAYNARD: Skip a bit, Brother.
BROTHER: "And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the
Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three
shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting
shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two,
excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once
the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou
thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty
in my sight, shall snuff it.'"
MAYNARD: Amen.
ALL: Amen.
ARTHUR: Right! One... two... five!
KNIGHT: Three, sir!
ARTHUR: Three!
[boom]
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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 20:10
Hehe! Now I remeber where that pic is from!
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by jiggler » 8 Dec 2006 20:42
I suppose it will depend on the type of nightlatch; and whether it deadlocks with the key or only via the snib?
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by xorb » 8 Dec 2006 21:00
via snip, normal 'yale' type
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by jiggler » 8 Dec 2006 22:14
as far as I know then it'd have to be a letter-box job?
but how would it be locked via snib from inside with no one in there? i suppose you could be going in for a deceased person? but I expect that if someone were concerned about that then they'd be breaking the door down - not waiting for a locksmith.
toomush,
was the one you opened a lock via snib only lock? and if so how did it come to be locked with the snib?
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