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by bowleya » 18 Dec 2006 18:39
Did anyone catch "The Real Hustle, The twelve Scams of Christmas" the other night???. The reason i ask is that in one scam they broke into a house using a Locksmith to open the door. They searched the rubbish and found a utility bill and promptly made up a Fake ID card. They then contacted a Locksmith who arrived quite promptly asked for some ID which the scammer(Attractive Blonde) provided. He then picked the door open charged the scammer £88 and left. She then rifled the house for £4K and left and also gave the locksmith a Duff cheque. Maybe this is a heads up to all of us as i am sure some smartarse may want to give it a go.
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by Belfast_ken » 18 Dec 2006 19:32
Seen the show and I bet some silly person will try this in the near future. I think the best thing you could do to stop this kind of scam happening to you is to tell the person when they call you that you dont accect cheques for a job like this. Maybe if they look and sound genuine and inist on paying by cheque you could ask for a cheque guarantee card and I.D. such as a passport or driving license which has there home address on it. If all else fails , Call your local police to confim the person is who they say they are. After all , If the person is genuinely locked out and want in they are not going to care if the police come round to have a look.
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by jiggler » 18 Dec 2006 22:03
I started watching it and then stopped cos I'd be walking round looking at everyone thinking they were a scammer. That bloke with the crutches stealing watches was bad.
I'll always get a cheque guarantee card and chek photo ID if not sure.
Just ask the person to tell you waht's on the mantle-piece while they can't see through the window. Or if you're already in and get a bad feeling then ask them to describe the hallway wallpaper or carpet to you and if they're wrong then lock 'em out and call the cops.
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by bowleya » 19 Dec 2006 3:36
I always ask a few questions about what is on the other side of the door and get the cheque guarantee card. But she was using Business cheques that do not have cheque guarantee card.
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by mh » 19 Dec 2006 4:02
Belfast_ken wrote:Seen the show and I bet some silly person will try this in the near future. I think the best thing you could do to stop this kind of scam happening to you is to tell the person when they call you that you dont accect cheques for a job like this.
So in this case, everything would have been ok for you if the person paid in cash?
Cheers,
mh
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by Belfast_ken » 19 Dec 2006 10:34
No , I would still ask for photo Id with proof of address to make sure the person is who they say they are. I just posted like that to explain how you could possibly stop somone scamming you in the way stated(by the means of a dud chuque). Sorry for the miss understanding in the way I posted my response 
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by haribo » 19 Dec 2006 11:42
I always ask for id, if they haven't got any , when I have gained entry I ask to look in their kitchen cupboard, and ask them to tell me what is kept in it.
When they say 'tea mate' then I reply 'yeah thanks!.. two sugars please' always gets a laugh! and guarantees they live there!
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by ponsaloti » 19 Dec 2006 12:32
I always need ID and proof or address, even if I have to talk to the neighbors of my choice, if it still dos`nt feel right, i talk to the customer some -more to give them the immpression that I dont trust them, then may-be open the door and look for photo`s .
I think you will find if you do call the police, you will be waiting for them for so long that you would wish you had`nt called them.
I`ve been lucky so far, when I get one like this, the customer will usually be standing outside the property until I have come back out.
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by UWSDWF » 19 Dec 2006 12:46
not a lockie but at anytime I've ever needed to confirm identification I will not consider anything but Government issued photo ID when skeptical I will request secondary identification. Also in most parts of the world it is illegal to falsley to impersonate a person feel free to remind them.
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by ponsaloti » 19 Dec 2006 13:03
I`m going to guess that only 10% of the uk carry photo ID at any one time,and I mean this could be anything from a bus pass to a driving licence.
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by ponsaloti » 19 Dec 2006 13:06
PS half of the so-called tradesmen/ ect are guilty of the above.
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by ponsaloti » 19 Dec 2006 13:07
PS PS ment to say tradsmen/ ect in the UK
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by parapilot » 19 Dec 2006 13:42
think its more than 10% with the new driving lic. Also you could ring the number on the invoice or ask them the house telephone number and listen to see if you can hear it ring. Chances are anyone thet does not live there won't have the house number in memory.
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by ponsaloti » 19 Dec 2006 13:46
big problem here is if they have recently been evicted.
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by UNFORGIVEN » 19 Dec 2006 15:18
i have always asked for id i will only accept driving licence or passport
and the same as ponsaloti i would knock on a neighbors ive never yet had to call the police but i would say even if you had the real home owner should understand that you are doing your job and dont mind
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