Lever Locks Availiable in Australia

by **skold** » 25 Dec 2004 4:53

Does any one know of any good lever locks available in Australia, such as locks with curtains and anti-pick notches

thanks
Skold

by **oldlock** » 25 Dec 2004 8:18

Australian made - only the Jacksons.

Imported - take your pick :lol:

you can have cheap crap through to top of the line stuff.

Paul

by **skold** » 25 Dec 2004 17:08

well i have seen 1 massive Jackson lever padlock...but i think importing will have to do for me...why ever did australia start using pin locks...

by **oldlock** » 26 Dec 2004 0:23

For whatever reason most australian stuff is based on american locks, probably from the period of the war onwards - when supplies from the UK would have been interupted.

Paul

by **skold** » 26 Dec 2004 0:31

yeah.. wars...well it would be good if i could find some decent locks other than lane and zenith - the jacksons look decent though...do they still make them??

by **oldlock** » 26 Dec 2004 0:37

Jacksons are still there - quality is sort of OK - not in Chubbs league though. They are made in Tas. Lots of hand finishing in jacksons products - probably because they simply don't have the machines to do it with.

In terms of safe locks Ross are very good too.

Paul

by **skold** » 26 Dec 2004 0:50

ok, so where can i find jackson's? locksmiths??? what about these ross safe locks?

by **oldlock** » 26 Dec 2004 2:59

Jacksons :

http://www.jacksonslocks.com.au/index.htm

Ross :

http://www.rosslocks.com.au/

Both available from your local locksmith - although he will probably have to order them. I have most of the ross pattern safe locks in bits on my bench most of the time !

Paul

by **_Ethereal_** » 26 Dec 2004 19:07

I have had a look at a few Jacksons, but their site gives little information on their security.

Do they contain curtains and anti-pick levers, or are they standard lever locks.

The ross safe looks look better quality, what do you recomend, i think the 100's look the best for someone without the proper tools fo these locks, whats inside them? im guessing these would be better quality and security than the Jacksons?

Thanks.

by **oldlock** » 26 Dec 2004 19:21

The JM29 is five lever with serrations and a curtain. Quite pickable with the right tools.

The Ross 100 is the best option for the hobbyist, as it should be pickable with wires / standard 2 in 1.

The 600 requires specialised tools but is picked regularly.

The 700 has only been done by one person / specialised tool to my knowledge.

Paul

by **_Ethereal_** » 26 Dec 2004 19:25

Thanks oldlock, are they expensive?, i expect the ross 100's to cost more than some of the Jacksons.

Ross locks look quality, especially their 700's which seem to be a 10 lever double sided key lock.

Thanks

by **oldlock** » 26 Dec 2004 19:29

The 100's are'nt too dear. The jacksons would probably be more expensive. I can check some pricing in the new year.

The 700 series is 9 lever double bitted, the 4 levers above the bolt, 5 below and a curtain / bolt thrower between.

The 600 series is 6 lever, three each side of the bolt, but single sided no curtain etc.

Paul

by **_Ethereal_** » 26 Dec 2004 19:32

Ok, thanks.
I think i will contact a locksmith to ask about ordering a Ross 100.
As my lever lock skill progresses i will probably go on to the ross 600.

Thanks for all the information oldlock, much apreciated

by **xlr8ed1** » 27 Dec 2004 2:40

Early english locks in this country were basic at best looking at manufacturing processess it was just some guy pressing out a couple of different levers and screwing them together. Granted i have come across a couple of chubb detainers but these where special order items even in england at the time. The pin tumbler allows for much more universal use - just look at were you find lockwood (Efco) products all able to Masterkeyed - keyed alike etc. As China has entered the market more and more - lever locks have and will continue to decline.

In all honesty Ross locks esp the 600 often end up on little money safes and the sort - not the sort of thing you would find on someones front door they use a different gauge key from the standard english wire gauge (so you can only use there key blanks) as well. Just go to a locksmith and ask for a mortice lock he will get one for you

by **oldlock** » 27 Dec 2004 3:42

The general situation is, if you want a well made lever lock to experiment with here in Australia you are better off getting a ross safe lock as it will cost you less than a good quality imported mortice lock.

If at the end of the day you can pick safe locks - you should be able to handle most other things :wink:

Paul

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