DOM

[mh]

"Even in its standard version, the locking cylinder is equipped with numerous convenience and security elements, including a multi-level system to protect against boring, probing and picking."

I wonder what they mean by "multi-level system"?

"Multi-level system" in this case is just the marketing term for "some features".

[p1ckf1sh]

Since a couple of months ago(January), I've become quite fund of euro-cylinders. So, I went and bought myself my first euro cylinder ever. It was An ABUS c83. [...] Nowadays, I can usually pick both sides on it(it's a double-cylinder) within 25 seconds. If i'm really concentrated I can pick them in 15-18 seconds.

If you don't mind butchering your locks you can turn those ABUS locks into quick repinners very easily. I have done this to some of my ABUS cylinders and I can repin them in less than 1 minute if I change pins and less than 30 seconds when only exchanging the pin positions (i am talking about the keyway pins here). Nice thing to have if you get bored with the lock and want a new challenge.

Here's how: ABUS drills the chamber holes by going through the top of the plug shell (top as seen the way a eurolock is regularly mounted, the wider round part). Then they refill the holes. Remove rings, coupling and plug, lock the shell into a vice. Take a nail or something like that and a hammer and put the nail down to the area that is exactly above a chamber hole. After some taps with the hammer you will notice a small round part giving way. Punch it all the way through and you have a nice hole exactly in line with the chamber hole. Repeat for all 5 holes. Use some fine grit sandpaper to clean the inside of the plug shell, clean lock and reassemble. This mod does not interfere with picking feedback in any way. Once the lock is picked now, you can rotate the plug 180 degrees and use the new holes to rearrange the pins.

I think it is pretty straightforward, but if something is unclear, just go and ask. I will try to take some pictures then.

[jordyh]

Wow, Shrub, you're coming over?
Have fun sailing!


Anyway, to my deepest regret, i must inform you that i have, indeed, not opened my DOM-IX 5 yet.
I find it to be rather a pain in the um... behind.
Oh, and yes, the DOM series are rather popular in holland (mainly with companies and schools, if they don't have master keyed winkhaus locks).

I'm still practicing, but it is acually demotivating me to try it, so i'm trying some different locks at the moment.

Determination is the key, but desperation it has become.

Oh, and Ben, does that winkhaus picking mean that you picked them both by single pin picking?
Just curious.


Yours,

Jordy

[Shrub]

Jordy, yes im over the last week in May, ill also be going over for the open which is when we can meet up,

[illusion]

Yeah did them single pin... the urge to rake is usualy so great, but did it.

The gold coloured one is insane - it feels so weird. There is just a weird feeling to it when picking.

As you know.. the other one was destroyed by repinning whilst not concentrating.

[jordyh]

There goes your reputation on being a NDE picker...


Ah well, glad to hear you mastered em, and yes, i understand what you mean with a weird feel to it, picking.
The binding pins feel.... well, weird is the word.
Anyway, important fact is: It is pickable.

Yours,

Jordy

[illusion]

There goes your reputation on being a NDE picker...

I picked the lock open in the first place... it's repinning that killed it. A top pin fired into the hole for the cam... I tried everything to get it working - I begged, asked, shouted, sifted through some monkey-bones, voodoo, bargaining, bukkake.. I tried everything. In the end I tore the lock apart, but the plug and pins were saved. I might try and put the plug in another Euro cylinder some time.

[jordyh]

Save yourself the trouble, just buy a new lock at the dealer when you're staying here. You'll be able to stick a lot more spool pins in it then. Might be decent for practice.

A pity you had to destroy it, but i've seen those plugs, they are devils.

Yours,

Jordy

[zaphod_beeblebrox]

Since a couple of months ago(January), I've become quite fund of euro-cylinders. So, I went and bought myself my first euro cylinder ever. It was An ABUS c83. [...] Nowadays, I can usually pick both sides on it(it's a double-cylinder) within 25 seconds. If i'm really concentrated I can pick them in 15-18 seconds.

If you don't mind butchering your locks you can turn those ABUS locks into quick repinners very easily. [---]

Thanks for the tip! I will absolutely try this whenever I can get the time, probably thios week. Repinning is something I've never bothered to look into before, unfortunately.