European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.
by paul1982 » 21 May 2006 18:03
I only have a CB 5g at present and practiced for months. I have a number of era Invincible's dead locks and sash locks that i've collected as well as numerous others. I took off the hard plate which reveals a slot where the bolt and levers can be seen.On the side where the bolt would be on the left This has helped me with the learning curve as your able to see the lever your lifting and get a feel for the lever in different positions and what to feel for. i.e anti picks, overlifting, low and high levers. I've also put a perspex front on some other locks such as some Chubbs i have. On some of the others ive just removed the hard plate, and taken the cover off and drilled a viewing hole. Filed the burrs and dressed the hole and put it back together Once your experienced enough you shouldnt have to use the peep holes any longer.

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by srv » 21 May 2006 18:27
The 110 is something i've never come across on a lockout, although i,ve seen a couple fitted on commercial properties. What makes it such a differcult pick ?
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by pinky » 21 May 2006 18:30
the fact that it works on a mech, rather than usual stump and lever fences, a mech needs engaging to position the stump.
being a mech, you can no longer exploit the innacuracies in stump and lever fence to create a binding lever.
did mark not show you the picking of a 110 ? its a totaly different lock make up to any other in production, and cannot therfore be picked in the conventional manor.
you also cannot plastercine impression this lock either, it is pickable by hand with a curtain pick, but the rules and methods used on other locks do not apply, and it cannot be picked with any certainty of success as others can be.
scoping the lock is very effective but takes a heap of practice, for most the pin and cam is the most reliable method of opening.
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by srv » 21 May 2006 19:00
With hardly any 110's being around in my area ( certainly on domestic properties ) it wasn't something I was focused on. Mark, like yourself recommended The SV kit for these. To be honest I haven't bothered getting it. No doubt i'll live to regret it.
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by pinky » 21 May 2006 19:06
only if you come across one !!
its becoming more popular again with a leicester council fitting them to all flats, its a horror on warrants.
it never hurts to get one to play with and understand. its surprising what can be achieved with even this lock, with some understanding and dedicated practice.
even in your area, you will see these on mostly high value commercial properties such as banks and pubs, if ever going out on warrants, it wont be one you meet every day, but it will crop up to say hi!
Marks pick isnt one ive put through its paces as yet, if i get round to trying it out, il post results, so i cannot say if it will deal with 110 lock, to date ive only had success hand picking the 100 with the cb pick and standard wire.
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by toomush2drink » 22 May 2006 14:39
Loads of 110 in london but luckily to date not had to open one as all the ones ive come across were unlocked making entry easy. Strange eh you get an £80 lock fitted then dont use it, it astounds me still.Went to my brothers place of work in holbern recently and noticed it had 2 110's fitted top and bottom and both with lock guards fitted around them too and all fitted on a seriously thick door of at least 60mm. You wouldnt even think about drilling those out as they were both fitted on the right  .I would have to pass on that job if it ever came up as im sure the door is part of londons history and irreplaceable. Must get the sv kit as my lucks going to run out with these locks soon.
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by EvoRed » 22 May 2006 14:48
Never drilled one but you can take the tab out on the right that lies next to the black plastic bar as this is all that keeps the bolt from retracting. There's people who go for the tab on the left too and, cos it's behind the case on the right, it causes a little destruction on the way through!
Must admit the p&c hasn't been 100% on the bench but, touch wood, it's not failed me on the door yet and been worth every penny, that's for sure...
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