by whiteknight38 » 22 Jul 2007 17:58
Shrub, I wrote this reply immediately upon reading your last post, but I opted to keep it to myself. Recent activity in this forum has caused me to reply to you after all, however belatedly.
Actually, Shrub, I read your poll, and if you re-read it yourself, you’ll see how unhelpful it is in answering my query. The thread you refer to only clocked 52 posts, ten of which were from you.
Only sixteen people actually responded to it in all, and of them, only four actually identified themselves as actual locksmiths. Two which admitted to using bump keys’s in the field. (Three, if you count yourself, since despite your distaste for bump keys, you admitted to using them occasionally in a professional context, “especially with multi-locks.†in your response to the post “Electric pick guns and the professional.â€
5 out of 16 people who might be, or pretended to appear to be locksmiths, admitted to using them, but only one person in the whole pool, seemed to be from Europe, which happened to be the locus of my interest at the time and hence my decision to post my question in EU Locks.
Another unfortunate problem with your poll, is that was conducted well over two years ago, and a lot has changed vis-a-vis bumping technology since then, from the advent of professional-looking, bump-hammers, to commercially available keys prepped for minimal movement, lower root-depths, high security, etc.
My question was a serious question made for a serious purpose. It was highly specific, and specifically directed toward EU locksmiths, and/or students and apprentices who may be using this forum at that time.
One US locksmith I interviewed, (part of the due diligence I’ve undergone that Shrub knows nothing about,) a former director of the AOAL, and a CML, (Certified Master Locksmith.) does consider bumping to be a front line professional tool, and bumps regularly. Any sensible person would agree that this guy, sort of qualifies as a “real locksmith†At any rate, he knows more than Shrub and I will ever know about locksmithing, and he’s aced the tests to prove it. A CML has achieved 90 percent in tests
He says, “Bumping is a tequnique that is easily taught to an apprentice. If only, it was as easy to teach them to use the key machine.â€
Here’s some freebie factoids, for the room: This guy bumps all the time. He said he’d rarely bump on exterior doors for NDE, (because locks get “gummy†outdoors, and bumping is less effective on older, oil-viscous, weather-affected, corrosion attacked, cylinders) but if he had to do, say, 15 interior office locks, “all high and dry†he’d pack bump keys for the job, “in a heart beat.†In the shop, if someone brought in a “troublesome†lock like 6-pin Schlage KIK for a rekey, his bench techs, “would always bump eight or ten times before picking or dissassembly.â€
As far as your assertion that I had not done due diligence in my research: “Please do real homework if your gogin to be doing a presentation of any type becuase it seems to me your rushing around and not doing things properly, im sure youve had more than enough time to do this work before getting to this state,†Sir, had that comment been published in a forum comprised strictly of professionals, and subject to peer review, that statement you just made would have been tantamount to and actionable for a libel suit.
If you had been across the table from me when you said it, my response to you wouldn’t have been an email.
Is anybody else at all confused as to why I lost my temper with whatshisname, for that pompous and gratuitous insult he hurled at me out of left field in te Master Lock thread? Why Johnny P the author of 75 posts and one of the few actual locksmiths here, has told you all to get knotted, after being called a liar and a fool?
Do you think it might be because the moderators here, are frequently the most obnoxious and inflammatory posters on the list?
