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aussielocky's Chubb detector lock video on YouTube

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby aussielocky » 12 Jan 2008 17:15

Part 2 failed to upload for some reason .. Trying again ..
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Postby gstrendkill » 12 Jan 2008 18:55

yea i was wondering why it cut off. post again when u got it working

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Postby aussielocky » 12 Jan 2008 19:51

Part two is up.
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Postby gstrendkill » 12 Jan 2008 20:07

wow, that lock a work of art!
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Postby greyman » 13 Jan 2008 16:10

I think I looked at the right video. That is a nice looking combination lock. Looks to be a 4 wheel Yale? Please correct me on the brand :)

The video after that seems to be of a Chubb change-key lock. Did the Germans really use English locks on the Enigma machine? I'm surprised, as they had plenty of their own great locks and German nationalism was running high in those times. The presenter sounds an awful lot like Oli D. :wink:

Good stuff.
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Postby mh » 13 Jan 2008 17:02

greyman wrote:The video after that seems to be of a Chubb change-key lock. Did the Germans really use English locks on the Enigma machine? I'm surprised, as they had plenty of their own great locks and German nationalism was running high in those times. The presenter sounds an awful lot like Oli D. :wink:


I believe Oli was referring to an Enigma machine that was captured by the British and was safely locked away using these locks.

The machines themselves were apparently stored in wooden boxes and I don't think they had special locks on them.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Enigmas.jpg

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"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Postby mh » 13 Jan 2008 17:04

or maybe he just wanted a nice headline for the video...
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Postby aussielocky » 13 Jan 2008 17:16

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sOcPeKFX4Yk

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=T35kbOOElyM

The comb is a Sargent & Greenleaf size 1, automatic.

The other vid is not mine, but the lock in question was certainly nothing to do with an Enigma machine !
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Postby greyman » 14 Jan 2008 16:06

mh wrote:[...]
I believe Oli was referring to an Enigma machine that was captured by the British and was safely locked away using these locks.

The machines themselves were apparently stored in wooden boxes and I don't think they had special locks on them.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Enigmas.jpg

mh


I have the privilege of living in the UK and having visited Bletchley Park, where they have an original German Enigma machine. Here is a photo of it (I think you can see that the "lock" on the box is not up to much!) :)

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Postby gstrendkill » 14 Jan 2008 16:10

thats pretty cool greyman
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Postby xlr8ed1 » 24 Jan 2008 1:39

the trick to "picking" these locks lay in the fact that the detector lever was was always exactly one height above the correct lever height. Thus say the cut of the correct key was a "number three" - the detector would be at the number two height of a cut key.
Hence you would over pick on purpose and engage the detector - take a reading - then cut a key one depth less than your reading.
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