Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

GUESS THE LOCK GAME!!

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby greyman » 2 Jul 2007 16:44

aussielocky wrote:Belguim ?
Fraigneax ?
No idea ..


Country is right.
Company is almost right.

It is a 7-lever mechanism with a double-bitted key. Here is a picture of it being worked.

Image
Image
greyman
 
Posts: 1026
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 16:43
Location: NSW, Australia

Postby greyman » 6 Jul 2007 18:20

The answer:

Belgium
Fraigneux
Liega (or is it Legia?) - not sure about that myself, it's not written on the lock or key.

I'll move over now for the next mystery lock posting.
Image
greyman
 
Posts: 1026
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 16:43
Location: NSW, Australia

Postby JackNco » 6 Jul 2007 20:39

so what is its main use. it doent look like there would be enough space for a dial cover and i see no bolt.
Image
JackNco
 
Posts: 3149
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 12:26
Location: Coventry. UK

Postby mercurial » 7 Jul 2007 3:25

JackNco wrote:so what is its main use. it doent look like there would be enough space for a dial cover and i see no bolt.


I would assume that the bolt is on the back of the lock, and is thrown by rotation of the inner part of the lock.

When the correct key is used, the 'inner' part of the lock is free to rotate separately from the outer casing, presumably turning a bolt on the back of the lock. Being a safe lock, this bolt likely only served to block the operation of more substantial boltwork.

You've most likely already seen the article on the Boden-Panzer (http://www.toool.nl/blackbag/?p=104), if you watch the video, in it you can see Oli operate the lock, showing how the bolt on the back of the lock's case moves through 90degrees.

As stated above, the lock shown by greyman isn't the Boden-Panzer, but I believe the main use, and movement of the bolt is the same.

...mercurial
mercurial
 
Posts: 176
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 6:44
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby greyman » 7 Jul 2007 8:58

JackNco wrote:so what is its main use. it doent look like there would be enough space for a dial cover and i see no bolt.


The inner part of the lock (the rotor, if you will) has 2 prongs at the rear.
On some models there's also a slot running across the back of the lock (like in the German lock that is mentioned in the previous post). The prongs slide a blocking bar out of the way (presumably) when the lock is installed in a safe. This would free the boltwork.
Image
greyman
 
Posts: 1026
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 16:43
Location: NSW, Australia

Postby JackNco » 7 Jul 2007 9:23

Thank you both of you. i can visualize it now. I usualy think of safe locks having a blot that slides back.

rest assured if im ever in your area you will probably have me turn up with a couple of beers to have a look :P
Image
JackNco
 
Posts: 3149
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 12:26
Location: Coventry. UK

Postby greyman » 7 Jul 2007 17:49

Might be possible, if there's a couple of beers involved :)

In the meantime, check this out trend-setters! Here is a lock from a friend's collection that I had the privilege of photographing the other day. Question is - what type of lock is it?

Image

Hint: it is very old...
Image
greyman
 
Posts: 1026
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 16:43
Location: NSW, Australia

Postby aussielocky » 7 Jul 2007 18:23

Barrons patent + bridge ward
aussielocky
 
Posts: 279
Joined: 7 Jun 2007 20:55

Postby greyman » 8 Jul 2007 9:47

aussielocky wrote:Barrons patent + bridge ward


aussielocky - you clearly know your stuff! So well so, that I would ask you next time to just wait a little so others can have a crack at it! You got the lock identified so fast, hardly anyone had looked at the photo. All the same, well done and absolutely correct.

Here are some more photos of the item - a 2-lever Barron lock first with the cover off and the bolt removed, and second with the bolt in place being operated by the key.

Image

Image
Image
greyman
 
Posts: 1026
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 16:43
Location: NSW, Australia

Postby aussielocky » 9 Jul 2007 7:23

greyman wrote:
aussielocky wrote:Barrons patent + bridge ward


aussielocky - you clearly know your stuff! So well so, that I would ask you next time to just wait a little so others can have a crack at it!


some people are no fun :lol:

OK. You just need to make the questions harder thats all ..
aussielocky
 
Posts: 279
Joined: 7 Jun 2007 20:55

Postby bluestar » 31 Jul 2007 4:11

Ok... here's a jewel from me: who knows which lock this is from? (Bonus: what is it?) :)
Image
bluestar
 
Posts: 104
Joined: 9 Jul 2007 6:04

Postby JackNco » 31 Jul 2007 8:18

any chance of a better pick i cant decide if thats a circlip or bigger and those are bearings.
Image
JackNco
 
Posts: 3149
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 12:26
Location: Coventry. UK

Postby cjames73 » 31 Jul 2007 8:19

would that be a spacer disc from a DOM diamond/diamant.
Image
cjames73
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 699
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 22:33
Location: launceston, cornwall, uk

Postby bluestar » 31 Jul 2007 8:49

cjames73 wrote:would that be a spacer disc from a DOM diamond/diamant.

Awww.Congratulations, that's correct. And fast :)
bluestar
 
Posts: 104
Joined: 9 Jul 2007 6:04

Postby cjames73 » 31 Jul 2007 8:54

thanks, it was the bearings that gave it away :wink:
Image
cjames73
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 699
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 22:33
Location: launceston, cornwall, uk

PreviousNext

Return to European Locks, Picks and Hardware

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest