Bump/Snap/Drill Proof Europrofile

[p1ckf1sh]

Somehow your link doesn't work for me, but I assume that you mean the Geminy stuff - cf. http://www.geminy.info/ (also in English)

That link is even better, thanks.

IMHO they are like tubular locks, with pin-in-pin, and lateral (not rotary) movement - I don't see why they should be particularly secure, except for that they are seldom and not well explored.

Right, and I think this is a good addition to locks on domestic premises. You can take an EVVA 3KS which is pickproof but not very secure against drilling and snapping and add the Geminy to prevent easy compromising through these kinds of attacks.

No single lock will ever be totally secure against EVERYTHING. If you want security to a certain degree, you don't need a specific product, but a concept. If someone picks your Geminy he will probably fail picking the EVVA 3KS. If someone wants to do destructive entry be snapping/cracking he has to overcome the Geminy first, which looks kinda sturdy. Nothing to snap easily, you will have to drill and make noise etc.

[mh]

The SSDeV seem to consider it a good thing, which could mean that it is a pretty secure thing or that they are glad the industry gave them another nice challenge...

Or that someone likes a sponsor

But I agree that it adds a nice 2nd layer of security,
e.g. you don't know what's behind it before you opened it.

I find it kind of inconvenient, though.

[p1ckf1sh]

Or that someone likes a sponsor

I don't think the SSDeV guys do sellout. They are actually even media-shy.

But I agree that it adds a nice 2nd layer of security,
e.g. you don't know what's behind it before you opened it.

I wouldn't even know where to start opening it. How to apply tension? Pulling it down does not necessarily mean that pins bind. There might be another kind of locking mechanism behind it. And then you start picking the pins, after you have one, you have to keep it in place somehow (assuming that pins don't bind with downward pressure)... that would actually mean picking each pin, decoding it, and having something to keep it in place while working on the rest.

I think I should go to some store and look at it. It starts to interest me, pickingwise.

[mh]

Or that someone likes a sponsor

I don't think the SSDeV guys do sellout. They are actually even media-shy.

I don't think they can be bribed, that was a joke of mine.
But: Drumm is a sponsor and basically advertises the Geminy system on their website.

I wouldn't even know where to start opening it. How to apply tension? Pulling it down does not necessarily mean that pins bind. There might be another kind of locking mechanism behind it.

You don't know where to start yet. Once you have analyzed the lock, you will probably identify a method how to make pins bind. After all it seems to be a very simple system. They might use serrated pins, though, and maybe some kind of threshold that doesn't make it easy to apply tension properly. That's somehow how it looks from the pictures
Tell me more when you have found one in a store. They seem to be pretty seldom...