SHODDY OPENING PICTURES POST HERE

[taylorgdl]

You think someone forgot their picks ?



And their tape measure for that matter.

G.

[Rockford]

Going for the gate (existing or new), and took 3 attempts by look of it. Door doesn't look too substantial.

[taylorgdl]

Day after I took this, scaffolding went up, door and windows boarded up, and the developers moved in.

Lucky I put my business card through first !

I wonder what happened to the lock ?

[Shrub]

Looks to me like a 40mm hole is being covered up by that escution

[NKT]

It might have been a 110, in which case they are heading in the right direction...

I did a lock change just now, and when I took the handle off to remove the sash lock, there was a single huge round hole for the keyhole and the handle bar!

I also drove past a closed down pub on the way home, steel plates all over, and a steel door, and from the *other side of the road as I drove past*, I could see the two huge holes drilled so someone could get in!

Rockford, how can you say anything about the door? All we can see is wood.

[EvoRed]

Probably a 110, and ID'd it wrong. Many would have taken the tab out on the right. Now if they forked out for the good old SV p&c...

[p1ckf1sh]

Now, I don't know the whole story here, but I believe the van was fitted with a lock, and possibly a door handle too. When the driver couldn't get in, he called out one of his Reactfast collegues, and they eventually got him in.

I don't think there was anything wrong with the van. They probably just needed some sheet metal for shimming.

[Rockford]

Rockford, how can you say anything about the door? All we can see is wood.

The wood on the left (Frame I assume - left mounted lock) doesn't look substantial - ie rotten. The condition of the wood is usually a good indication of how substantial a door is - isn't it? That is, unless it's got 10mm sheet steel secured to the back of it

[acl]

Definatly a 110 id say by the escutheon (altough not always a good indication) and i have seen a lot worse than that!!

[EvoRed]

Course it's on the left, although there are people who take the tab an' all out on the left too!

[acl]

When you say the tab i assume you are talking about above the keyhole and not the stump?

[NKT]

Rockford, I'd say that the weather strip looked a bit tatty, but I see lots of doors that are rock solid, with bad weather strips. After all, few builders bother to paint over the nails, so the water gets in and rots it. Keeps the door dry, though. And those holes look like they drilled into solid wood, too.

I thought they (as in, warrant runs, cowboys, everyone but burglars) had to leave the premises secure afterwards. So why do we see so many huge holes and complete messes?

Oh, and as for the shims, you might be right, p1ckf1sh. They may well have ripped the doors off, and made a shim for the £6 nightlatch that was mocking them.

[EvoRed]

Yes Andy, the metal tab above the keyway, next to the black plastic bar.

[pinky]

dont mention BAR to andy!!!

[Rockford]

NKT - I've never known anyone defend a door . Do you have a fetish about doors that you've not disclosed?

No-one can say for fact (that is apart from the person taking the photo) what condition the door was in, what the lock was, or in fact whether those are indeed drill holes. We are basing our responses, to a partial image, on our gained experience and knowledge, and a bit of common sense. It may well have been a sound door, with a 3 lever Union deadlock (retrofitted with Chubb escutcheon), and a bad case of termite infestation - we just don't know.

I was merely making an observation - I wasn't looking for a response, or what if scenarios - it was just a comment