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by andyheartsfc » 8 Mar 2006 15:22
I stay in edinburgh uk and would love to try some key bumping,after searching all i can see is some eouropean bump keys h\\p://search.multipick-service.cc/?p%3Alang=english&Realm=MPS_EN&Terms=smart%20keys&Submit=Search
Now i could try and make them but as a beginer think this is a bad way to go,as would think i had it wrong ,
I am looking for say 5 of the uk,s most popular ones,i have tried keycvutters in my area but their machine only cuts a key and makes a duplicate ,
So if anyone can help please can they pm me
thanks verry much
andy
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by CPLP » 8 Mar 2006 17:02
Why pm? Why can't we talk about it publicaly? Why do you want 5 of the uk most popular ones? What's your goal? 
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by andyheartsfc » 8 Mar 2006 17:06
ok i thought pm was better,the reason i want 5 is so im not trying this on something that dosnt work,as the guy in the toool video sugests getting 10 of the most popular ones,i thought id try 5
andy
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by 3on » 8 Mar 2006 17:19
Andy have a point there.. 
My ingelsh isnt tat god
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by 79commando » 8 Mar 2006 18:34
Probably safer to practice on some locks that are not in common use. That way it wont look dodgy you having access to common lock bump keys. After all if it is only for gaining experience there is no need for common keys.
There are far too many variables anyway, regardless what the newspapers say about ease of buming and burglars bragging that they can now gain entry to most properties in seconds.
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by illusion » 8 Mar 2006 19:27
The pin spacing is something few people are aware of...
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by andyheartsfc » 10 Mar 2006 8:33
cheers for all the input but i still want a couple of keys ,dont care what they are as long as i can then go and get a matching cylinder and have a go
thanks andy
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by pizarro » 14 Mar 2006 9:20
Why not just buy a cylinder and a file, and make a bump key from the key that came with the cylinder.
No i can't spell, and yes i'm dyslexic.
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by Chrispy » 15 Mar 2006 4:38
illusion wrote:The pin spacing is something few people are aware of...
With a bit of luck, the pin spacing shouldn't matter too much. As long as your hills aren't too high.
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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by vector40 » 15 Mar 2006 5:10
I think pin spacing should matter quite a bit, at least outside of certain bounds.
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by Chrispy » 15 Mar 2006 5:51
If your bump key is cut below the lowest cut and and you have it slightly further out of the lock when you're striking it, you'll still engage all the pins with enough force to bump them properly.
A lot of locks brought into work by the customers are made by different companies that share the common C4 broaching but have slightly different pin spacing (quite often the reason for keys being cut to code incorrectly). All these locks can be bumped open using the same bump key.
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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by SteveW » 15 Mar 2006 6:16
It is possible to buy bump keys from locksmith's wholsalers in the UK. Souber make five sets (i think) for Union, Yale, Viro, GeGe and Legge cylinders. That would cover alot of common cylinders in the UK. but you have to be a Lockie to get them.
Cheers
Steve
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by willdonkeypunch » 19 Mar 2006 19:13
Go to e-bay and search for master keys, then find the listing for master keys for honda, nissan, toyota, chevrolet, dodge, etc if you want auto bump keys
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by illusion » 19 Mar 2006 19:23
willdonkeypunch wrote:Go to e-bay and search for master keys, then find the listing for master keys for honda, nissan, toyota, chevrolet, dodge, etc if you want auto bump keys
b...b...b...BULLSH*T!
So you can now bump auto locks can you?
Lets bare in mind that auto locks are 'wafer locks' and the bump technique requires top and bottom pins to function. Inother words "it won't work on wafer locks"
I think you need to re-read the way bumping works, and then remember to research before you give out complete and utter turd to a newbie, who may actualy try it on a car and end up in serious crap.
Do NOT bump, or even CONSIDER bumping auto locks...
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by Shrub » 19 Mar 2006 19:55
It is an obvious advertiseing ploy, hes got a set on the sell section and is seeking out any thread that slightly resembles a simular item and is then pointing you to his listing which if i may say is infiringing ebays rules so will hopefully get removed and also your ethics on who you sell the items to need looking at.
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