Small Home Safes

[Jlo]

Hi All,

My parents have bought a small keycode safe. Not a very expensive one around £40 but hopefully enough to prevent someone snatching the jewelery if there house ever got broken in to (The safe is bolted to the floor)

I noticed one problem though? They have an override key and guess what its a 7 pin tuberlar lock which of course can be opened with a tubulor pick with ease. Yes I guess it will still keep away the oppertunist but I am suprised that this type of lock is still used.

Do the more expensive home safes that have electronic combination locks have more secure overide keys? I would like to think they have moved to something like a disk lock like abus use rather than tubulor locks? I know Oxford who make motorbike locks always used the 7 pin tubulor lock but now moved over to the disk lock system (Copy of Abus/ Abloy) to defeat picking.


Cheers

Jlo

[pinky]

yes most now use a stuv double bitted safe lock.

[Jlo]

Is that as an override when using an electronic combination? as I know the key only safes are normally double bitted (6 or 7 lever)

Cheers

Jlo

[jordyh]

Hilarious, the "backdoor" of safes.
Humans... they never cease to amaze me.


Yours,

Jordy

[pinky]

yes often now used as overide also. though these cheap electronic safes are easily power probed also.

[gazzaull25]

i went to a safe fault 1 of those cheap and nasty one`s from your local diy store customer said the code was not working anymore and could`nt find the overide key!!
lucky for me it was only a waffer lock(my company don`t do picking say no more) but lucky for me ive been practicing and picked it open and guess what i found?????

yes the overide key inside

[CVScam]

On American tv is a show called "It takes a theif." It is on reruns almost every night I forgot which channel the guy is a former house burgler, almost 1/2 time the safe is not even locked or he just picks it up and takes it with him. They recomend home safes that have inside bolts and bolt to the floor. I know someone has a home safe it is in concrete in the floor of his basement he keeps a rug and table over it that seems pretty good to me.

[Jlo]

i went to a safe fault 1 of those cheap and nasty one`s from your local diy store customer said the code was not working anymore and could`nt find the overide key!!
lucky for me it was only a waffer lock(my company don`t do picking say no more) but lucky for me ive been practicing and picked it open and guess what i found?????

yes the overide key inside

A wafer lock. Wow! I know I saw somthing on the internet with one of the Chubb Home safes which had a electonic key pad. But at least the override key was the 10 disk AVA system which is still pretty good security.

I am thinking of buying one of the Burton Torino safes which are soldsecure but will check on what type of override key it uses first.

Thanks for all your replys.

Jlo

[Jlo]

Hi All,

Just found an interesting review at http://www.locksonline.co.uk/files/pdf/ ... h_2006.pdf looking at padlocks and safes. The cheap safes like the one my parents have can be opened in seconds. Even the Yale safe was forced open quickly.

Looks like the Burton safe is a good one but think I will go for a key operated one as that has the sold secure test attached to it. The Chubb Black Box did well to.

Cheers

Jlo