will a Ford Tibbe pick work on a 10 disk Chubb Ava Lock

by **Jlo** » 22 Apr 2006 4:14

Hi,

Just wondering how different a 10 disk chubb ava lock is to a Ford Tibbe lock? I beleive the ford locks have 6 disks, Jaguar 8 disks but the modern keys have a 'neater profile' over the Chubb AVA key so I am guessing the locks will differ?

Anyone know if the Ford Tibbe pick works on the Chubb Ava 10 disk lock?

Cheers

Jlo

by **illusion** » 22 Apr 2006 4:33

Which one are you referring to? the Falle decoder, or the Souber Tibbe pick?

by **Jlo** » 22 Apr 2006 5:27

I am thinking of of the Souber Tibbe pick or similar for Ford Tibbe locks.

Cheers

Jlo

by **Shrub** » 22 Apr 2006 9:34

No, sorry.

The Souber tool isnt even great on the locks its designed for.

by **Jlo** » 22 Apr 2006 11:14

Ok thanks.

by **pinky** » 22 Apr 2006 14:30

the souber tool is a matter of technique, and is excellent for its purpose once mastered. its in fact quicker and easier than the sf tool on ignitions, the safeventures is better on doors.

by **Rockford** » 22 Apr 2006 19:26

Got to agree with Pinky on this - the Souber tool is great once mastered. I've used it frequently on door, boot and ignitions. Down to technique and understanding the lock.

by **Shrub** » 22 Apr 2006 21:25

Well you do certainly get more luck with it once you throw the instructions away and think what your doing along with the knowledge of the lock and up until recently was what i used on deadlocked Fords but when i got the sv tool i havent touched it since and other than removing one i wouldnt use either on an ignition.

by **Jlo** » 23 Apr 2006 5:02

Thanks for your replys.

So just to clarify how different is the Forde Tibbe lock to the Chubb 10 disk AVa lock found on some BS rim locks and Padlocks?

Cheers

Jlo

by **illusion** » 23 Apr 2006 5:23

Similar, they both use a disc mechanism, as does Abloy, Abus, and a few Mickey-Mouse manufacturers.

Check out the latest Abloy article by Han Fey for some info regarding the AVA system.

by **Jlo** » 23 Apr 2006 5:56

Thanks Illusion.

Cheers

Jlo

by **skold** » 24 Apr 2006 5:41

Jlo wrote:Thanks for your replys.

So just to clarify how different is the Forde Tibbe lock to the Chubb 10 disk AVa lock found on some BS rim locks and Padlocks?

Cheers

Jlo

Similar, but i have doubts of the Tibbe pick working on AVA.

by **greyman** » 25 Apr 2006 8:12

Ford Tibbe is very similar to Chubb Ava but with fewer sliders.
Main point is that Tibbe can use a reversible key whereas Ava can't.

I have a write up of it in my book, but it isn't published yet

by **pinky** » 25 Apr 2006 8:33

the tool i was shown for the ava, was a small 2 in 1 pick design, it worked in the hands of its maker, and with practice i guess would be reliable in the right hands.

by **zaphod_beeblebrox** » 25 Apr 2006 9:44

On Han Fey's whitepaper it says AVA is a wafer lock

Are you speaking of a disc lock or wafer lock?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just a bit confused

will a Ford Tibbe pick work on a 10 disk Chubb Ava Lock

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