garrison/mul-t-lock

by **chrisjc33** » 18 May 2006 5:05

is it possible to impression the garrison cylinders?

notice the one on the left has the strongman logo and the other two have the garrison logo but all the same 7 pin locks

by **nhughz** » 18 May 2006 8:55

Not sure about impressioning but the Garrisons bump open.

by **cred** » 18 May 2006 9:03

hi,
i am going to have to suss out this bumping method for these locks!

ray :wink:

by **pinky** » 18 May 2006 9:08

these bump in seconds, they pick on the new sparkling tool a treat and the wendt gun with dimple attachment works too, but bumping is quickest.

by **chrisjc33** » 18 May 2006 9:35

pinky wrote:these bump in seconds, they pick on the new sparkling tool a treat and the wendt gun with dimple attachment works too, but bumping is quickest.

how do you make the bump keys?
do you take a bit of the tip and make a shoulder?

by **p1ckf1sh** » 18 May 2006 10:03

pinky wrote:these bump in seconds, they pick on the new sparkling tool a treat and the wendt gun with dimple attachment works too, but bumping is quickest.

Just curious, how does a dimple attachment look like? Never picked dimple locks, though...

by **cred** » 18 May 2006 10:29

were is the best place to buy dimple bump keys? do you have to have seperate ones ie 1 set for multi lock and a set for garrison?

thanx
ray :wink:

by **EvoRed** » 18 May 2006 11:51

You can get them from anyone you know who can cut the blanks to the deepest cuts.

A dimple attachment just enables you to put a horizontal blade in rather than a vertical, but I have to say the Wendt dimple attachment hasn't been very effective on the Garrison's I've tried.

The Souber Mul-T-Lock opens them although, personally, I've found it can be difficult lifting the highest pin all the way due to the shape and size of the picks.

The Newsparkling tool is better than the Souber picks and works a treat as Pinky says, although the wires are weak.

by **illusion** » 18 May 2006 12:05

Providing the lock does not use telescopic pins, it CAN be impressioned. Drill all the holes down as deep as you can, then thin the blade of the key down a bit. Apply a layer of aluminium foil over the blade and carefully insert into the lock. Turn the key from left to right, and it'll open. Openings vary, but under a minute would be a decent time.

Cheers.

Ben

by **chrisjc33** » 18 May 2006 12:45

illusion wrote:Providing the lock does not use telescopic pins, it CAN be impressioned. Drill all the holes down as deep as you can, then thin the blade of the key down a bit. Apply a layer of aluminium foil over the blade and carefully insert into the lock. Turn the key from left to right, and it'll open. Openings vary, but under a minute would be a decent time.

Cheers.

Ben

i have tried this illusion but if you look at the pic there is a ward to the left of the pins that the groove in the key runs,this ward just rips up the foil.

by **illusion** » 18 May 2006 12:52

Ok, but the wards are actualy away from the pins, which means you should be able to get a strip thin enough to avoid the wards, but also provide enough surface area for the pins.

If kitchen foil is proving crummy, try using the stick-backed foil tape sold at Halfords. This stuff is sturdier than kitchen foil, and doesn't cost much.

Barring this, then either bumping, or using the Souber MTL picks would seem the best way.

by **pinky** » 18 May 2006 13:26

2 forms of bump key exist, both require the deepest cut in each position, you can use the cut key as it is by pulling back 1 notch and rapping similar to souber keys, but not as effective as taking half mm off the end and using hot glue for the bounce.

bumping is the quickest opening.

the wires on new sparkiling tool are weak as the blade is too long, make your own with a shorter blade and your away.

by **raimundo** » 19 May 2006 10:18

I was thinking that kitchen foil might be a bit thin, but I also thought that if that is all you have available, (there is a barbeque foil that is thicker) you could layer it two or three laminations deep and it might work.

by **acl** » 19 May 2006 18:07

As ive (boringly)said a million times on this site ive been in this trade for a while but ive never really had any need for bumping. But i recently recieved a Garrison bump key(from the brummie cocktail waiter!) and ive tried it on the bench and by god it works!! Not used on site yet and we all know how different that is!

by **pinky** » 19 May 2006 18:30

are we talking that largish, bald ex bacon smelling cocktail waiter from brum mate ?
The same brum cocktail waiter with an adversion for S & M from unknown happy slappers ?

has he done the impossible , and converted you to the way of the bump key mate ?

it works on the door fine andy, as long as the door hasnt too much movement, and euros pop a treat on the door mate.

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