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Newbie presentation and questions ...

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Newbie presentation and questions ...

Postby Mister V » 5 Jul 2006 12:18

Hello all.

Congratulation for you site, and the quality of the informations in here...


I have a little problem, my english is not perfect, and my "technical" english, less more....


So I do not understand all of the message and explanations.



I'm a new one in the lockpick, and I find it amazing.


I ve juste bought a kit yesterday, the one I took in picture just here :


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I bought also the two ABUS padlock on the left side of the picture to begin training.



Have you got some specific training exercises with this kind of stuff ?


In fact, I successed opening the little padlock in a few minutes using the little "entraineur" and the pick number 14.
I placed the first pin, and after I inserted deeper and moved upside down, and it opened easily...
Its only 3 pins.


The bigger one is 4 pin, I counted them with LP n°10. Thought the half diamound were the best to pick locks, but I failed to place any of the pin with the n°10 ...
I succesed to open it with n°7 , racking inside the pad lock...


But I find theses locks very small to insert a pick and place each pin individually .... Is that normal ? Or it s because i'm not really trained ?



Have you some advices on the use of the other number of my lockpiks ?

Some training on my padlocks ?

I have lot of questions, so I prefer to keep the to later ... Thanks for the time you'll take for answering !



A french beginner in LP !


Shrub: Picture changed to thumbnail due to the size of it,
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congratulations

Postby raimundo » 6 Jul 2006 8:40

congradulations, on your first picked lock, you will find there are a few others here from france, and some of them are our best pickers. Welcome to the site.
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Postby NeXoz » 9 Aug 2006 10:25

Hello..

It looks like you have a pretty big pick set.. (like me)

I'm not an expert on any specifig lock yet, BUT i know
how to pick most locks, my skills are ofcource improving over time,
enugh about me..

The first thing a learned after picking for a while, is that the set
i bought is WAY TO BIG for me.. i do not use more than 1-3 picks,
(and my set is Southord C6010 with 74 picks)
But you my find is usefull to experiment with diffrent picks
finding the one or more, that fits your needs.
Picking locks is a funny hobby, the one day you can
sit for several hours without haven opened one lock,
and the next you can open them.

It's all about pratice, no matter how hard it seems to be,
eventualy you WILL open it.

No locks is "unpickable" (some locks can't be opened with picks,
but there is allways some form of tool that can do the job)

The best advice i can give you, and most do, is to pratice.

And get a pratice pin-tumbler lock, they truely helps..

There is however an guide about finding the right pin to
lift, the binding pin and the others. Can't remember who wrote it,
but credits to the guy..

Hope it helps

Kenneth..
Nobody is perfect, locks are a "living" proof to that.
So why not just take'em down...
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Postby undeadspacehippie » 9 Aug 2006 12:37

En français:
pratique en matière et puis encore plus de pratique en matière de pratique

Traduit avec la traduction bable de poissons d'altavista
- There is no spool -
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Postby unbreakable » 9 Aug 2006 12:41

Wow, I just did a double take, I had a teacher called Mr.V last year.

And, he was my french teacher.......

Nice set, mister V. Seems like you have some doubles though.........
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Postby Aqua » 9 Aug 2006 17:13

Glad to have you on board Mister V.
If you click my sig you will be taken to a short index of the forum. It should also help you with your work on the lockpicking vocabulary.

An exercise which had a lot of possitive feedback was the one created by Digital_Blue. You can find a thorough description of the mentioned excercise HERE.

To complete that exercise, you will have to dissasamble one of the padlocks (or some other lock). Unfortunatelly, It's a bit more troublesome to dissasamble a padlock than it is with a standard cylinder, but THIS thread contains some useful information for those who might want to do it. ;-)

As for the picks you use... Well, to tell you the thruth - very few picks from a set like the one you have will be of any use to you. Most people keep to the half-diamond, the hook and probably two or three rakes (but a half-diamond can be used for succesful raking as well). As for the tension wrenches, you'll probably stick to the smallest one.

Tools no.8 and no.9 will be of much help when picking waffer locks.

And as to the small keyhole in those abous padlocks - if you have a bench grinder or a dremel tool, you could try making your own picks. With homemade picks you would have the luxury of choosing your desired thicknes, lenght, handle, and so forth. You could also try finishing off the picks you have with sandpaper, which would make them a bit easier to controll while inside the lock.

Ps. I hope that the lower tension wrench was manufactured already bent. Otherwise, I think you should apply much lighter tension. ;-) Usually a finger resting on the wrench is enough or even too much for a lock.

Cheers and good luck!
N.
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