mortice try out keys

[bazg]

hi there, i am currently setting up as a locksmith and was wandering if any of you guys had tryed the set of 78 try out keys and are they worth buying compared to a good curtain pick thanks

[Mark A]

Bazg

Yes i have had a set of the Souber try out keys for years(at one time there was very little alternative)

I have had some success on Invincibles and 3G114/3K74 but I soon changed to the more reliable Decoders and impression Kits, when these became available.

If you buy a selection of curtain picks these will open majority of BS and Non BS curtained locks but require many hours of dedicated practice on all types of locks and even then may take a long time to get open.

Mark

[illusion]

hi there, i am currently setting up as a locksmith and was wandering if any of you guys had tryed the set of 78 try out keys and are they worth buying compared to a good curtain pick thanks

Well they won't open every lock, and from what I've seen aren't nearly as effective enough to be relied upon. You will still need a curtain pick since these won't work often, and hence you may as well just get good with the CB pick.

[horsefeathers]

Agreed that I dont think they are that affective. That said, I have never used a set but the hit and miss approach to them seems to put me off getting a set (and price). Use the 2-in-1 or a good curtain pick.

I only possess the 2 and 3 lever sets of try out keys. Used the 2 lever set 3 times today (same job - three different locks) and quite often you will find the 2 lever set opens quite a few three lever locks as well. Quite frankly, when i see a warded keyway, I get the 2 lever keys out and it opens usually within the first three try out keys. Not bragging here as everyone knows how useless 2 and 3 lever locks are security wise.

I dont think the 78keys are needed - just my opinion

regards

[Shrub]

The 2/3 lever try out keys are a good investment for any lockies tool box,

The 78 tryout keys are absolute crap, everyone who has them grinds them down for other uses lol

Ive thnkfully never bought them,

Just a hint here, try to keep your questions to one thread and dont ask the same thing twice in 2 differant threads, theres good advice in your other thread you could have asked this in that one,

[Mark A]

Although these days I would rarely use or attempt to use the 78 try out keys in a lost key situation, I have lost count of the times I have successfully opened jammed Invincibles especially when levers are under lifting.

But that said unless you are coming across this on a regular basis I wouldn't bother buying them.

Mark

[pinky]

although im probably the curtain picks biggest fan and of course the superb safe ventures decoder, if you have these keys, then dont be quick to totally disregard them.

yes i too have little time for them and think they are pony, 78 possibilities is just too time consuming, though it is possible to speed up the process by taking a plastercine impression, from the impression you can easily identify the correct key shape, this will at least knock you down to under 20 possible keys, thus speeding up the process.

as mark has said, good for stiff and siezed bolts , but for every day use a decoder and/or curtain pick is the wiser investment.