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by Shrub » 21 Jul 2007 21:36
I use a Souber tools euro cylinder servicing jig everytime i repin one ever since i got it but they arent cheap and not really in the scope or indeed maybe even obtainable by hobby pickers,
So it got me to thinking what could i come up with for the hobby pickers to play around with and my answer is what i present here and now,
Please understand that i made the post in images as i thought it would be quicker to do than upload all the pics but to be honest after spending a lot of time putting them together i was wondering if it was worth it and then when i found out i had made them 4 times too small i was seriously pissed so what you see here is the same pics but simply enlarged on my art package so i appolagise for the very poor quality,
I also appolagise for the poor workmanship but i rushed this through this afternoon and paid little attention to finish as its merely the idea im wanting to get across,
As i say its the idea i want to get across so please feel free to redesign and play around with it, a piece of dowl as a piston on the 'arm' would be better but i had no springs big enough, a cap head bolt instead of the screw, a nail or even a properly machined pin you may make at school etc would be a good and quick way of improving the design here so maybe start there?
Springs can be got rom car tyre valves, mecanno sets, retracting pens and pencils etc,
Either way its only an idea so take it or leave it its no skin off my nose, if you like it and have a go i would love to see some pics of your mods,

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by Shrub » 21 Jul 2007 21:38
Ps, you want to pin dimple locks?
Then use a flat blade instead of the welding rod, maybe a windscreen wiper would be good?
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by UWSDWF » 22 Jul 2007 2:16
very cool.....
stop being modest and sticky it though
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by Shrub » 22 Jul 2007 9:45
We'll see 
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by JackNco » 22 Jul 2007 10:21
huh, very clever. do you have a picture of an original tool that is used to repine double sided euros.
All the best
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by Shrub » 22 Jul 2007 10:33
Do you mean a commercial one?
If so ive only got the Souber tools one so ill add a couple of pics of that if you like,
Hope this is of use,
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by JackNco » 22 Jul 2007 11:25
yep, I meant a commercial one. guess i could have worded that better. I usually strip one side of a lock to have a look what im up against and never get round to putting it back together if I have a double i cant open. (Yep lots of bags of bits)
Cheers for that. brings it to life a bit more when i can see the tool its based on. nice job you did there. thanks for the pictures.
John
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by RangerF150 » 22 Jul 2007 12:00
Gonna make one of them soon as I get the time
What's the read on copyright payments Shrub, is this under the GNU license agreement or do we have to pay you every time we make one 
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by donjon » 22 Jul 2007 17:44
Thank you from a poor man 
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by Shrub » 24 Jul 2007 8:44
Lol no copyright just dont copy the article to other forums and if you post a tool made from this on another forum i would like some credit but either way im not bothered
Donjon, no problem, its god us paurpers can get along lol
There is another way that i didnt show because i couldnt be bothered making it,
Take a old euro cylinder and remove the plug,
Cut the top off the part where the plug came out and then remove the pins and drill through to the other side on the first chamber,
You now can use a spring and wire etc through the first 'bible' hole and use the radius of the lock body to hold your lock,
I dont like the idea and it looks messy but its just another way to do it if you dont want to start making wooden blocks etc, the euro lock cutting up idea isnt my idea i just remember a picture somewhere of it being done,
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by globallockytoo » 24 Jul 2007 10:18
I must say you obviously went to a lot of effort there. Good on you.
Although, many years ago, in trade school, as a first year apprentice, in Australia, I made a euro cylinder tool a bit simpler.
Just a piece of sheet metal or tin....rectangular about 5cm wide x 10cm long, with a slot cut in one end (5cm end) the width of the cylinder bible. The slot depth was about 6cm.
Two small holes drilled past the end of the central slot (just smaller than the width of the spring steel length - used for holding the drivers). One hole about 5mm from the end of the central slot and the next hole a further 1cm inline.
The spring steel retainer (or width of a thin tension wrench) was about 8cm long and inserted (threaded) through the holes.
Thats all!
Simple, quick and very cheap. Extremely portable as it was thin and light and fitted easily in tool box.
I'm not saying yours in bad in any way....just seems like a lot of effort.
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by Shrub » 24 Jul 2007 12:40
Global, didnt realy put a lot of time into it but did think about the design for a couple of nights, i was trying to make somthing anyone could make with minimal materials so it was never gogin to be perfect but more to get the thoughts gogin on site,
I need to re-read your suggestion so i understand it better but it does sound a lot better for sure,
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by UWSDWF » 24 Jul 2007 12:50
global maybe you could post a how-to on that...
I think that Shurb's still has merit though as alot of people are more comfortable/have the tools to work with wood over metal
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by Shrub » 24 Jul 2007 12:55
Ok ive sussed it, looks a good idea and better than mine,
For the last few years ive been useing a paper clip bent in the way SJ describes in his euro pinning guide stickied on site somewhere and your idea is a better made version of that,
Think ill make one
For everyone else ive knocked a drawing up for you, its yours to copy and rehost as you wish if you want but its only a crappy one to get the idea across, im sure its what you described but if not please correct me,

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by globallockytoo » 24 Jul 2007 15:24
Your drawing is almost perfect.
The length of the black spring steel should be to the end of the slot...this way it will not interfere with the cam mechanism.
Using this tool....sometimes i might have accidentally dropped the subject cylinder....to no avail....as the top pins were still held in place.
One thing worth noting tho....it can be advantageous to bend the tin/sheet metal slightly so that pulling the plug does not hang up on the end of the slot.
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