Quickest 114 pick

[london_lad]

I just wondered what you guys find easier and quicker to pick a Chubb 114. The CB curtain pick or the 114 decoder from safe ventures ?

I have both and always use the decoder, as I am not great with the CB pick on 114's but wondered if it's worth trying to perfect using the CB pick on this lock or carry on with the decoder ?

Cheers

[JackNco]

Heh If I could afford (or even technically get my hands on) Either I would love to try them out. Although I have herd more people have "luck" with the decoder with practice.

John

[illusion]

The 114 increases the chances of opening the lock greatly if you aren't too skilled with the CB pick.

If you are a trading lockie then the 114 decoder will probably pay for itself rather quickly, assuming that there are enough of them fitted in your area to justify its purchase.

Hmm - Time wise the decoder will be faster, but with practice you should get your times on the 114 down by a fair amount.

[horsefeathers]

Plus with the decoder, the tool gets you a key profile (after opening the lock of course) from which you can cut a proper key to suit the lock.

regards

[illusion]

Plus with the decoder, the tool gets you a key profile (after opening the lock of course) from which you can cut a proper key to suit the lock.

regards

I see what you mean. but once the door is open it's not overly difficult to take the lock out and read the levers.

Although I guess it could come in usefull.

[EvoRed]

You can cut a key directly from the key you've just made up from the Safeventures kit so a lot quicker than opening the lock up and cutting a key to suit.

114's can be opened in as little as 2 or 3 minutes with the Safeventures kit, rarely more than 10, depending mainly on number of pin changes required. New E's can take a little longer...

[horsefeathers]

Plus with the decoder, the tool gets you a key profile (after opening the lock of course) from which you can cut a proper key to suit the lock.

regards

I see what you mean. but once the door is open it's not overly difficult to take the lock out and read the levers.

Although I guess it could come in usefull.

Just curious how long it would take you to remove a lock from the door, open cover, read levers, then cut a key to suit those levers, re-assemble, and re-fit to door..... if I am going to do that!!! Simpler to replace the lever pack if all other keys lost.

But like evo said, once the lock is unlocked with the decoder, the sv tool can simply be placed in a key cutter and a perfect copy of the actual key can be produced. Two minutes max. And at 11-30pm in dead of winter I dont want to be hanging around dismantling locks...bbrrrrrrr!!!!!

regards

[horsefeathers]

tried to add a mildy naughty word in last post.....

"........ $#$@$@$ if I am going to do that!!!"

makes a bit more sense now.

regards

[london_lad]

Seems that I will carry on with the sv decoder then. Never thought of making a key from the decoder but seeing as I do warrants everyday, don't really need to.

[acl]

There really is no contest here the pin and cam is far far the easiest/quickest method,ive done a few with the icl pick and a few withe cb but if you are looking at speed it has to be the p+c every time

[acl]

sorry no contest here ,ive done a few with the icl and cb cwp but give me the p+c on the door anyday

[panalman]

New E's can take a little longer...[/quote]

A lot longer any tips from P&C users would be useful on the E's
Thanks