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2in1 picks

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

2in1 picks

Postby lockpicker69 » 11 Sep 2007 9:21

hi

i am looking for a longer version of the era padlock picks,i.e. insurance/big six .
I think the ones I am looking to purchase are called the hobs 2in1 and are of the pipe version,please correct me if I am wrong .i have just tried sks but they dont do them .
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Postby lockpicker69 » 21 Sep 2007 9:19

for any body intrested

http://www.multipick-service.cc/htdocs/ ... /hobhaken/

has anybody had any dealings with this company ?

or these?
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... en%26lr%3D
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Postby capt.dunc » 21 Sep 2007 18:33

what lock are you trying to open?
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Postby lockpicker69 » 22 Sep 2007 14:44

cabinet locks
i got myself plenty of 2in1 picks and a few overlifters ,also got a rbcurtain pick which i will soon be selling in favour of the mark francis triple or maybe the cb i dunno yet,what would you go for ?


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Postby capt.dunc » 23 Sep 2007 9:01

i personally use cb's picks or home made ones. chris does a good document on making 2 in 1, and curtain picks which he'll supply to locksmiths on request, check his website for the application form.
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Postby NickBristol » 23 Sep 2007 12:59

Multi-pick do have some decent kit but a lot of it can be bought cheaper from UK trade suppliers suppliers.

There's an extremely good tutorial on making 2in1s on this site - Snapcarp wrote it and I think it is stickied in the European section. Shows how to make them from scratch and the few bits of rod and tube that you need. I forget where I ordered mine from as it was some trainspottery online model shop but it was cheap. You should be able to make up some very much like the Hobbs 2in1.
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Postby lockpicker69 » 24 Sep 2007 6:11

have you used multi pick before nick ?
i think most of the ones you buy are lazer welded making them very strong but i will have a look at the sticky later and if you could dig up that site where you got yours from i would be very grateful
thanks richard
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Postby capt.dunc » 24 Sep 2007 7:55

a hobbs pick, and a "2 in 1"are just different names for the same thing.
if multi pick do one in the size that you require then i'd buy from them, since i can't think of anyone else who stocks any,other than the rb padlock pick. other than that you'd have to modify a 2 in 1 ie. bore out the stem tip, hand make one from scratch, or from a key blank and a wire.

ac hobbs, american lockpicker who picked the chubb 6 lever detector lock in 1851. he used a ploting attack to pick it. he then went and spent 10 days working on the bramah lock, this lock had remained unpicked for 50 years and carried a 200 guineas prize for opening. he succeeded but had to fight the company to claim his prize, eventually bramah conceeded that it had ben fairly picked under their rules and paid up.
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Postby lockpicker69 » 24 Sep 2007 8:34

yes i saw the programme about that on that bbc2 a while back,very intresting indeed.think it was called (what the victorians did for us) or something like that.
i am going to have a go at making one myself,just pricing some silver steel up now .
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Postby greyman » 30 Sep 2007 13:58

Re: the Hobbs/Victorian inventions program on BBC - I wish I'd seen it. A friend said it was very interesting. I pulled down my TV antenna a while back because I got sick of paying the ever-increasing TV licence fee. So no more "free-to-air" TV for me (or the licence polizburo will round here in their white truck with the antennas all over it) :wink: :? :)
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Postby freakparade3 » 30 Sep 2007 15:20

greyman wrote:Re: the Hobbs/Victorian inventions program on BBC - I wish I'd seen it. A friend said it was very interesting. I pulled down my TV antenna a while back because I got sick of paying the ever-increasing TV licence fee. So no more "free-to-air" TV for me (or the licence polizburo will round here in their white truck with the antennas all over it) :wink: :? :)


Is there no free network tv available where you are? Please explain.
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Postby capt.dunc » 30 Sep 2007 21:52

if you own a tv signal receiver in any form whatsoever in the uk, you must pay the bbc's licence fee. this includes portable sets etc. on a lock bassed note, if you have tvs in shared flats etc. then you require multiple licences if the individual rooms are lockable
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Postby greyman » 1 Oct 2007 3:41

capt.dunc wrote:if you own a tv signal receiver in any form whatsoever in the uk, you must pay the bbc's licence fee. this includes portable sets etc. on a lock bassed note, if you have tvs in shared flats etc. then you require multiple licences if the individual rooms are lockable


Well, not exactly. The TV licensing "police" would like you to think just that and the actualy legislation is a bit ambiguous. But on a careful read what is actually being charged for is the reception of the BBC (TV) broadcast. To do this, you will need more than just a TV - i.e. you also need and antenna and a feed cable. BY removing the feed cable and antenna from my "receiving system" I can no longer receive their broadcast, hence no requirement to pay licence fee even though I have a TV. They cannot charge you to use a TV to watch your own dvds/videos (unless the videos were taped from the TV!). Complicated, but there is a way out :)
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Postby capt.dunc » 1 Oct 2007 8:10

i'll stand by what i said since if you don't have an aerial, then you don't have "a reciever" and you also don't need a licence if you live in an area with no bbc signal, parts of orkney for example.
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Postby 79commando » 1 Oct 2007 10:22

You need a tv licence if you have a computer with internet access as it is classed as a receiver :cry:
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