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by mh » 22 Jun 2008 15:04
http://www.cavers.fr/iseoserrature_cave ... tion4Code=
-> Cylindres et Batteuses
... the ones at the bottom ...
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"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by Jaakko » 22 Jun 2008 16:27
So those are the locks that are operated with broken keys.... 
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by mh » 22 Jun 2008 16:34
either that, or special 1-pin versions, or even this:
http://www.toool.nl/blackbag/?p=42
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by MacGnG1 » 22 Jun 2008 17:33
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by hydruh » 22 Jun 2008 18:46
Barry is right! This is really thinking outside the box. Cutaway to protect against the pullout attack? That's just amazing!
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by bellwood » 22 Jun 2008 19:08
The picture shows the lock looking from the back.. they are used for cupboards and lockers where there is no need to lock the door from the inside.
Just turn the lock in the picture around 180 degrees and the key goes in as normal.
The pic is very misleading though.
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by David_Parker » 22 Jun 2008 19:17
I agree. Way to go guys. Instead of making things complicated, they simplified. Reminds me of the joke about NASA spending lots of dough to make a space pen, while the Russians just used a pencil.
Slightly askewed, at ALOA, I found that ProLock did something like that too with a gun lock.
The cylinder isn't high tech, its a simple 5 wafer lock. But getting it open is complicated. There are to buttons on it, only one of which need to be depressed. The other is a decoy. And not only does the cylinder have to be turned, it also has to be depressed. I found this intriguing because while not the securest of gun locks, it seems to be a significant jump in gun safety by making the lock more complicated to open. Hopefully, someones kid will be safer because of this product.
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by mh » 22 Jun 2008 23:26
bellwood wrote:The picture shows the lock looking from the back.. they are used for cupboards and lockers where there is no need to lock the door from the inside.
That's it, now I understand. This is the version where you do want to lock yourself into the cupboard, that's why they have decorated the back as well and probably provide mirror image keys, too 
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by rohi » 23 Jun 2008 10:40
Keep in mind that this is a drawing, not a photo image.
Maybe some 15 year old IT specialist had a bad day
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by horsefeathers » 23 Jun 2008 12:30
half cylinders like those are common on up and over garage doors here in the UK. The key goes in the other end as has been mentioned (why show a pic that way round i dont know!) You dont need a key on the inside of the lock when in your garage as you just pull on the cables, or even twist a handle that is already on the back of the locking mechanism - though usually the door is open as you got in thru the front in the first place!
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by Squelchtone » 23 Jun 2008 13:33
mh: interesting drawing on that french site. Must have been someone having fun with photoshop and a stock image.
for everyone else who hasn't seen a half euro cylinder, here's some eye candy:
man I want one of those long keyed mauers on barry's blackbag
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by mh » 23 Jun 2008 14:49
cool, it's "niet te klop" - can't be bumped, eh?
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by deciBell » 20 Jul 2008 4:45
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by deciBell » 20 Jul 2008 4:50
, I cant edit my own post here
These 'half cylinders' are also commonly used as switchlocks and to close electronic racks
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by n2oah » 20 Jul 2008 18:23
hydruh wrote:Cutaway to protect against the pullout attack? That's just amazing!
Too bad the cutaway is not an original concept.
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