Mauer new wave 4 lock...

[gang_wheell]

Hello,i see this lock...and i wonder if this lock can be pick?
http://www.mauerlocks-bg.com/index.php?ch=3&tr=3&id=125&lang=en

[greyman]

Looks like a cross between a Mottura Champions and the new Multilock MT5 (without the pins inside pins). Can you pick it? I'd say it would be difficult since it's dual action - there will be a sidebar in there somewhere. Someone got the patent reference?

[gang_wheell]

yes,i think too it is very hard to pick,and the structure of the lock is very interest

[Major Boothroyd]

Like greyman said it looks like the Mottura - Champions 48 with the only difference being rollers (?) instead of the interactive bit at the tip of the 48. Made by Mauer, a Bulgarian company and if I got the conversion right is fairly cheap.

[raimundo]

Looked at the link, Im impressed, when are these going on ebay? I like it.

[gang_wheell]

This lock is very cheap about 40.00euro...
Other lock http://www.mauerlocks-bg.com/index.php? ... 15&lang=en i like it ,and again is very secure,and his price is about 18.00euro

[gang_wheell]

This is pdf catalog of the lock's ,and inside have the structure of lock's
http://www.mauerlocks-bg.com/download.p ... atalog.pdf

[straightpick]

After looking at their profile cylinder catalog, I'd have to say picking the 4 wave would be a piece of cake compared to their Redline G and Redline GM cylinders. The pins extend the entire length of the cylinder - one is about 72mm, almost 3 inches long! That is one heck of a key, have to make special picks to even reach all the pins!

[cristimm]

How about Mauer Red-Line? Are them any good? I can find them in my country at reasonable prices.

[ARF-GEF]

The one you posted is not the standard mauer redline. The standard redline has much shorter keys than the ones pictured.
I have these on the picture, it's called Guard Millenium.

The mauer redline elite 2 and elite are both mediocre locks. Not too bad, but not good either.
Red line's manufacture quality is a bit worse than elite 2's quality, but red line is breaksecure, meaning it has a weakened part which can be broken down if it hangs out without sacrificing all of the security.

The one on the picture, due to the very long key, offers good defense against picking, but the very long keys are uncomfortable to wear in your pockets etc.

[cristimm]

Thank you for your answer. Do you think I could find a better cylinder than the one in the picture for about 35-40 euros?

[cristimm]

Just found a website showing what's inside them:

http://www.wikizamki.org/index.php/Mauer_Gard_Millenium

[GWiens2001]

Interesting that the one in your link is master keyed. Thank you for the link.

Gordon

[ARF-GEF]

Gege maybe?
Gege ANS-2 and Pextra is within that price range here, and both are very good locks, much better than normal redline and elite 2.
The guard millenium is a good lock, but the key are uncomfortable long for everyday use.

[cristimm]

Thank you.

I think that an uncomfortable big key is a small price to pay for increased security.