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by MARCO1963 » 3 Jul 2010 19:03
Hi, Remember I speak a little bit English. I hope that it's the right topic. For this topic on locks who they use discs. I introduce you my work begining by the last locks who they use discs what i picked this afternoon. I make a vidéo then I can write a little bit. The Abus Plus Granit is the best anti-theft for big motobike. It is approuved by all assurances and they are labotaories tested by SRA, FFMS and NF. If you is interessed, I will show you, others locks who use discs and that I picked them. I'm waiting your comments. This is the vidéo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_t-z2bRuooSee you soon
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by Squelchtone » 3 Jul 2010 19:30
That looks like Jaakko's decoder tool. I have the same tool =)
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by mh » 4 Jul 2010 13:52
Oui, Jaakko's tool. Works very nicely, until you find a lock with a butterfly disk in the front, but those are rare. I made one for my Ski lock.
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by Rickthepick » 4 Jul 2010 14:52
where can i get that tool? and nice picking!
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by MARCO1963 » 5 Jul 2010 18:21
Hi Squelchtone, Mh, Rickthepick, Thanks a lot for your encouragements. I bought this pick at Jaakko. See you soon.
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by Rickthepick » 6 Jul 2010 8:37
iv got to open one of these this week... and im pretty sure i wont be able to pick it 
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by MARCO1963 » 21 Aug 2010 15:36
Hi, I looked for a vidéo where someone picked a Abus X Plus on youtube, I didn't find. I looked for on some forums on internet, I didn't find. I would like you ask four questions. If someone picked a Abus X Plus, why didn't he do a vidéo ? Why did he tell nothing ? Do you know someone, who picked a Abus X Plus ? If yes, could you tell me his nickname ? Thanks very much to take the time for to answer to my four questions  . For me it's very important ? See you soon.
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by mh » 22 Aug 2010 0:54
Two answer your 4 questions: 1) not everyone makes videos of everything, and also that lock is not so common in all parts of the world 2) yes I did  3) yes 4) see <-- on the left side Check your pm. Cheers mh
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by MARCO1963 » 22 Aug 2010 10:53
Hi Mh, Thanks for your answer quickly and your pm. I asked these questions, because, me too, I picked a Abus X Plus. Check your pm. See you soon.
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by MARCO1963 » 29 Aug 2010 11:10
Hi, I picked 2 padlocks Abus Plus 88/50. When a member of french forum, He asked to me : how many time for pick 1 padlock. For answer him, I bought 10 new padlocks. I didn't pick yet and I didn't watch their keys. I used a numeric clock with hours and minutes, but without seconds. Because I don't want to do a compétition, because the competition doesn't want tell a lot of things, because one day is a good day for me and second day is a bad day for me. So the secondes is ridiculeus for my work, minutes is good. I divided the 10 new padlocks in two equal paquets: 5 and 5. The five first, I used : Jaakko's pick with my tactile sensations. The five of the end, I used : jaakko's pick with my tactile sensations and the vernier. Here my time for pick, the five first :1er cadenas 6mn 2ème cadenas 8mn 3ème cadenas 6mn 4ème cadenas 5mn 5ème cadenas 9mn Here my time for pick, the five of the end :6ème cadenas 2mn 7ème cadenas 2mn 8ème cadenas 2mn 9ème cadenas 6mn 10ème cadenas 2mn Here the 10 + 2 padlocks Abus Plus 88/50 picked view in front :  Here their key and their card of ownership :  Here the 10 + 2 padlocks Abus Plus 88/50 picked view in back :  See you soon.
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by femurat » 30 Aug 2010 3:39
Chapeau! That's what I call "be able to pick a lock"  When I started playing with Jaakko's tool I couldn't pick without looking at the scale (vernier?). After some practice I was able to pick these locks blind, and your records seems to confirm the usefulness of the engraved scale of the tool. Talking about locks, I like to have a couple of each, so I can learn to pick that kind of lock, not that specific bittings. But you have 12 similar locks... too many! Consider trading them (I'm not asking them since I already have some, this is just a friendly suggestion). Cheers 
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by MARCO1963 » 30 Aug 2010 15:17
Hi, An other model : Abus Granit 37/55  See you soon.
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by protec » 8 Sep 2010 17:03
hi marco,
nice work. can you tell me what version it is? i mean what kind of disc is under the drill-protection disc; a number 6 disc - then its an older version a number 1-5 disc - then its a newer version a number 7 disc (butterfly) disc - then its the newest version
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by MARCO1963 » 9 Sep 2010 5:57
Hi Protec, Thanks a lot for your encouragements. The padlocks have 9 discs. The first and the last have the same gate and on all Abus Plus Padlock. So, You have to find the good gate for 7 discs with 6 possible positions (about 250000 possibilities). Each disc have 2 false gates. They have not butterfly disc. But attention The Abus X Plus is different. See you soon
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by MARCO1963 » 9 Sep 2010 6:12
HI, The padlocks with discs, there are two types : Le padlocks when they open, it's impossible the key to come off the padlock, because one of side of shackle is always in padlock. Examples : Abus granit 37/55 - Abus 88/50 - Abus 88/40 - Abus 89/50 - Abus 89/40 and some chinese disc padlocks. Le padlocks when they open, it's possible the key to come off the padlock, beacause the two sides of shacles are outside of padlock. Examples : Abus Granit 37/60 - Abus Granit 37/80 and some chinese disc padlocks. For the second type, it's easy to cheat with picture. This is why, I made a vidéo for the Abus Granit 37/80. Now that I made a vidéo the Abus Granit 37/80, I can put the pictures of Abus Granit 37/60. Here the two Abus 37/60  Here its advertising. It's write : Impossible to pick (mécanisme incrochetable).  Here The old Abus 37/60. The difference between the new and the old is the head of the key.  See you soon.
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