Hungarian lock safari

[zeepia]

I´m staying one week in Debrecen, Hungary and of course I have my small set of picks with me. But even they proved to be too big for these tiny keyways, Roto euro cylinder and Elzett 2048 padlock:







The only lock I could easily pick at the hotel was this euro cylinder but the title says it all, this was bought from Spar grocery store... I wonder how many buy these to secure their own home.



At town there are 90% Elzett, some old lever locks and only a few other brands.
@lockpickfan: you said that Elzett is easy to bumb so you have an access to everywhere in there!

Then I decided to get some blanks to try it myself later. Local Mister minit - locksmith was very friendly and didn´t ask what I was doing with those blanks. Neither could he because we didn´t share any common language to understand each other... So now I have a few blanks for Elzett and Roto, trying to make my first bumb key and also for learning a little about impressioning.

Maybe you should try this when you can´t buy blanks - play tourist!

[youngpicker99]

When you say Bumb key do you mean bump key?

[GWiens2001]

I like your lock safari. Must be fun. Doing a lot more looking at locks, too. Saw that the local electronics store is usung Schlage Primus locks on the storage cabinets.

[lockpickfan]

Hello Guys!

If you want a good Hungarian lock, just buy an Elzett X-11 or something like this.

In Hungary, peoples use a lot of cheap sh*t like what you bought in spar, and the the cylinder lock version of the elzett padlock ( elzett 751), and some other brands, and some people just use hi-security locks but not so mutch.

In the last year i do a lot of opening jobs, and i see peoples just don't spend money on security, but i don't know why, because there is a lot of burglary in Hungary.

Roto is nice one, i had an opening job in a new building, they lost the keys for 13 flats.... all of them have roto cyl.
Some of them is easy to pick, some of them opens with e-pick fast but some of them is hell to pick it ( you need to use southord euro slims to pick it or something like this).

LPF

[lockpickfan]

And, if you want blanks just ask me
( i have bumpkeys for them too).

[zeepia]

Thanks lockpickfan, I will remember that if I manage to ruin all my blanks

[bembel]

The last one is a home brand of a popular German hardware store. They use this "budget" brand on all kind of low budget stuff, not only locks. Even if the product details on the package are German, I'm sure they're produced somewhere else. You can buy them for 5 Euros, if I remember correctly, which makes them cheap practice locks for beginners.

P.S. I've never seen a lock design like that in the 3rd picture. Ist there more information about it?

[zeepia]

That third picture is the same lock as fourth picture. It´s Elzett padlock and is very comfortable to hold when picking!

[bembel]

I thought it was some weird profile cylinder.

[exspook]

when I was in Budapest I noticed just how far out most of the euro cylinders stuck from the doors!! easy to snap.
Nice place to visit, friendly peeps and cheap beer

[aczera]

Use a hairpin for a tension tool and a paper clip for a picking tool. If the paper clip is too thick for the keyhole use the concrete below to sand it down, use one side only and bend it perpendicular to that axis. The elzett can be picked with those ANY TIME, make sure you keep tension on and a raking movement with the pick. Manufacturing tolerances mean that the sooner than later the lock will give in.
Anyway, most of the locks in my youth (TUTU etc) and well as most mortice locks coul be picked with a bent bicycle spoke, a hairpin or a paper clip, looking back on those days waiting for my southord set and a masterlock 12 for a challenge...

Happy openings,

[ARF-GEF]

@aczera

I don't mean to be disrespectful but I don't think a paper clip is a good SPP tool. For example it's not rigid and not flexible at the same time. It's just soft. I'm not a good picker,admittedly so maybe that's why I think paper clip pickings should belong to the TV.
I would recommend anyone who only meets very few euro locks to invest like 6 bucks and get a few hook and maybe a rake from the basic Southord slimline. Heck all you need is a tension tool and a SLS-07 and off you go. They are 2.10$ a piece...
About those Elzett locks: they are very easy to open, but I've seen easier. Since they have 3 mushroom pins at 1,3,5 they wouldn't be the lock I would start picking also as mentioned by zeepia the tight curvy keyway can be a nuisance if you are not use to it.
And they are also manufactured decently, so a comparison with TUTU is maybe a bit exaggerated.

But this is all just my opinion.

[ARF-GEF]

I forgot to include:
Welcome to the forum mate!
This is a real treasure trove for lock fanatics, so you've made a good decision in joining.
Good luck with picking!