European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.
by TOWCH » 6 Jun 2005 21:02
I'm taking a trip to Germany in a couple of days and figure it'll be my best chance to pick up some lever locks for awhile. From what I've read it sounds like the Chubb 110 would be a good choice but I also want something a little lower security to learn on. I'm only bringing about $300 in expendable cash and I can probably only spend about $150 max on locks, that isn't written in stone though. That's the situation, any advise would be much appreciated.
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by Shrub » 7 Jun 2005 4:14
Get anything with a BS (British Standard) rating and you will be ok,
Chubb 3G110, Chubb 3G114, ERA Invincible, Black Legge are all good suggestions,
If you want to have a go at non BS ones (no anti picks, curtain, cheaper etc) then any of the cheapo ones will do,
As a word of advice, take an empty suitcase (or pack lightly) as the extra weight may overload your bags and the cost of extra baggage will make the cost of the locks over the top.
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by capt.dunc » 7 Jun 2005 5:46
if you're just going to be using wires, then i'd recomend a union security, 2101 or 2201, this has no anti pick notches but 5 levers and a curtain. any lock without a curtain for starters, 3 levers, but not the cheapest of the cheap, get a named brand, yale, union etc, since some very cheap ones have thin bolts which will cause you tension problems. and a bs rated lock, which will have anti pick notches, but not a securefast. if you're using wires i'd leave the 3g110 alone, it's hard enough with a curtain pick designed for the job. also avoid ones which take a 7 gauge key if you're learning.
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by Shrub » 7 Jun 2005 10:51
 I think every lever lock available is going to be mentioned here before the thread is out,
I would just get anything you can afford that you cant buy at home
Cheap locks will be ok if wanting to pick with wires but as capt said the very cheapest wont be up to much.
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by oldlock » 7 Jun 2005 16:22
TOWCH wrote:I'm taking a trip to Germany / ~ / any advise would be much appreciated.
I doubt any of the locks mentioned so far are readily available in germany .........
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by TOWCH » 8 Jun 2005 0:01
I actually intend to make a curtain pick and 2 in 1 once I get back to the US, I don't expect I'd have much luck with 2 wires, seems too fidgety. I'm going for the 110 because I know it's difficult and I want something that will keep me occupied for awhile. As for them not being available, are you sure about that? It's alot closer to the UK than the US and I just assumed I could find a locksmith who carried them. If not I'll know within a couple days and can order them from the nearest supplier. I'm sure it's cheaper this way than trying to order them from the US. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions thus far, the briefcase is sounding like a better and better idea with each reply.
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by capt.dunc » 8 Jun 2005 5:47
what plans have you got for making a 2in1 or curtain pick, i'm about half way through trying to make a 7g curtain pick which can deal with low levers, and at the moment it looks like i'll have to end up making a RH and a LH pick with my design.
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by oldlock » 8 Jun 2005 7:19
TOWCH wrote:As for them not being available, are you sure about that? It's alot closer to the UK than the US and I just assumed I could find a locksmith who carried them.
German & european locks in general are really quite different to UK ones. I really would be amazed if you can find them.
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