Squire Stronghold SS65 padlock

[taylorgdl]

Need some help with the above.

Have got the open shackle version, and a smaller brass Squire Lion SL LN3 padlock. This is not a problem, and can open it between 10 sec - 1 min, even with my new home made picks (thanks for all the video's and other threads, had a great weakend in the garage).

However, the stronghold is different to anything else I've tried to date. Cannot remove the key once the shackle is open, and haven't used a hex wrench to take the whole thing apart. Keyway is fairly standard except there is no "springiness" when using the tension wrench, and looks like there is a ball bearing as an anti-drill plate infront of the pins.

Any recommended techniques to overcome this one, as its got me stumped at the minute. (it belongs to me before anyone asks).

Thanks guys

G.

[quicklocks]

the strong hold if its the one im thinking of is a much better lock all round
the reason you cannot take the key out is to stop the lock being used without the key and there is no pressure on the barrel due to the mechanism works on the ballbearing priciple not the snap shut way.
it picks like a good door lock. if i can remember it has 6 pins and i think 4 are security eg spool and mushrooms.
the first one of these i picked. i picked one dinner time took me about 15 mins and i consider myself to be a average picker so good luck

[taylorgdl]

Yes,
Key indicates 6 pins, any idea which the mushroom positions are? by the way, is there a better way to tension due to the "ball bearing tension" system ?

cheers,

G.

[Chrispy]

The padlock is a key-retaining padlock. It stops you from walking away from it and leaving it unlocked. I think this is what you are referring to.

[quicklocks]

thats what i was trying to say thanks crispy .
just tension this lock the same as any other, put your wrench in and use light to medium tension. this is the easy bit.
the spools are mixed about try looking at my vids to help you to find and deal with them.
viewtopic.php?t=8630
hope this helps

[taylorgdl]

Okay,
Have found an allen key that fits and taken the lock apart, for a bit better understanding. Have taken pics, and will post them at a later date, (sorry, bit busy at the minute).
Have also found that anything more than the very slightest of tension locks up the whole cylinder. But also found NO security pins !
Is this normal ? Or is the lock just more difficult due to better machine tollerances ? By the way, the whole of the lock was covered in thick grease, (previously used in a marine environment). Don't know if this will make a difference.

thanks all,

G.

[quicklocks]

no security pins now im confused the one i picked acted as if there was sec pins in it

[taylorgdl]

Oops, was thinking of another locks I'd taken apart recently.

Link below to pic of pins, No. 2 as you suspected is a spool.

My mistake ! Have more pics if you want to see the rest of the locks innards.

http://tinypic.com/eaftpk.jpg