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Postby pinky » 4 Jan 2006 10:01

www.newsparkling.com.sg

ive just placed an order for a number of tools from here, so once arrived il review each tools performance here on 101, i have ordered a large number of toys, but those of most interest will be;

the new range of mul t lock picks
the range of dimple lock tools
the abus pick
the abloy tool
the car laser overlifters
the vehicle decoders

will let you know how the do, though its about 2 to 3 weeks for shipping..
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Postby nhughz » 4 Jan 2006 14:05

I can picture you now mate counting down the days !!
Look forward to the reviews.
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Postby acl » 4 Jan 2006 14:53

Martin,cant find the prices,could you let me know how much the MTL,Abloy and Dimple kits are?
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Postby EvoRed » 4 Jan 2006 16:37

Andy, until Martin gets back to you, what I do know is -

Mul-T-Lock, code 2532 - $165
Mul-T-Lock, code M-100 - $155
Dimple, code 4059 - $69
Detained disc, code 1033 - no stock, code 4019 bypass tool - $80

Certainly some interesting stuff on there...
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Postby pinky » 4 Jan 2006 17:39

those prices are a little higher than im paying, but are the original prices i was quoted.
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Postby SteveW » 4 Jan 2006 18:25

He has quoted me the same prices as you Evo. I think its probably best to wait until Pinky has had a look at some of his products, befor any orders are made.
The prices may get higher if he knows we are all interested :(

He doed have some very interesting tools though :?
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Postby NDEFreak » 6 Jan 2006 4:55

Pinky -

My employer knows a distributing agent from Taiwan who works down here in OZ for those tools and that company. Thought I might point out that I had a chance to look and play with the Automotive picking kit
( Tibbe, various track key picks etc ) and you may find that the instructional CD may not work or it will be in Mandarin or Cantonese. The tools are reasonably well made, alot of it is either brass or aluminium
( not the longest lasting but it's not like you are going to be picking
Mul-T-Lock 30 times a day - or maybe you will, I don't know ).

Also, I dont believe that the tool resembling an Abloy type pick/decoder is actually for Abloy, but rather for a Chinese hybrid copy design. I have seen a Chinese padlock for sale that is a cross between Abloy and the Abus mechanism, I have even read that the Falle-Safe Abloy decoder does NOT work on the Chinese copy of the mechanism.

I hope I am wrong but all the evidence I have seen so far suggests that the tool from Newsparkling is for the Chinese mechanism only and will be ineffective on a genuine Abloy cylinder.

But, when the tool arrives, if you find that it does work then thats great.

Hope I didn't contravene any forum rules and also I hope I didn't burst your bubble.
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Postby Shrub » 6 Jan 2006 5:02

To be honest the material the tools were/are made from is my concern as they are renown for useing below spec materials for things when a particular spec hasnt been asked for.

The alluminum aspect is worrying as it seems to me that they are probably casting it but lets see what pinky's tools are like im still an open mind on the subject.

But thanks for your input and now you havent broken any forum rules :wink:
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Postby NDEFreak » 6 Jan 2006 5:31

What I can add further is that the various "rake" picks in the Automotive kit seem to be alot larger ( width and thickness and overall tip length ) than what you would expect, in comparison to the scale of a HPC rake for instance.

Although, the Tibbe pick doesn't seem to be too bad, the tension tool section seems to be a stainless steel wire but its a pity that the handle and "business end" is machined out of brass.

I think the discs in a Tibbe mechanism would be harder than the brass of the tool in question, decreasing the tool's lifespan with regular use.

Sorry Pinky, I hope I am not depressing you by revealing that what you have purchased, as you may have suspected prior to this post, might be sub-standard, although we could reproduce these tools using better materials if we so desire.

Just me rambling again.

Sorry.
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Postby pinky » 6 Jan 2006 5:56

hi

the tool purchase is for testing and training purposes, i tend to use overlifters and the safe ventures tibbe pick, and john richards decoders for autos.

all details are cool as we all want know if its worth using this company.
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Postby skold » 6 Jan 2006 5:59

I noticed they tend to use brass very often.

The pick guns look ok, though they are made from screwdrivers that could be bought and modified for under $10AUD.

I am interested in the mul-t-lock picks though, they look like they are worth a try, and the tubular pick looks sexy in blue, though i wouldn't buy it over the HPC.
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Postby pinky » 6 Jan 2006 6:02

Just had 1st dissappointment from them, my order expected on 15/1 , now wont be dispatched until at least the 15th as out of stock items delaying shipping.
Hmm

now expect delivery around 26th of this month, not the best start.
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Postby skold » 6 Jan 2006 6:06

I don't think that the picks will be all that they look.
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Postby pinky » 6 Jan 2006 7:08

with regards to these tools from new sparkling, for the price of them i dont think anyone should or could expect safeventures quality, you want this quality, then you pay for it.

The 21 piece auto set, costs a total of £60 and that includes shipping, if that dyno plug spinner and the tension wrenches are of similar quality to those sold by wholesalers here, then those 2 items alone would cost more to buy in the uk .
At £60 a set, 1 opening and the kit pays for itself, so is a low cost option for many moving into auto openings if the kit works.

The mul t lock picks are very interesting and nothing like them is currently sold in the uk, now if they work its another cheap piece of kit for a nasty lock, if materials are sub standard, then so be it, the design is what im interested in and whether this design works, if so then i can make my own from better materials.

To buy such tools from uk tool makers would cost you a mortgage.
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Postby NDEFreak » 6 Jan 2006 9:06

I agree completely and as I stated in my last post, materials may be bad but are easily replicated with better materials and know-how. I agree with the Mul-T-Pick picks design though, it LOOKS sound, a bit like the theory behind the Hobbs / 2-in-1 pick, a tension tool with a pick incorporated.

Good luck with them when they arrive anyway.
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