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Getting started with safes

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Getting started with safes

Postby wayne2182 » 17 Nov 2011 13:57

Anyone have info on a good safe change set, and some info on safe changes. Starting my business next year and would like to do safe changes as well. just need to know some common safe change keys to get and maybe where to get them thanks guys
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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby Squelchtone » 17 Nov 2011 14:12

Open an account with your local HL Flake, and Lockmasters and MBAUSA of Kentucky.

All in one safe combination change keys:
http://www.mbausa.com/item.asp?num=K-18


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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby wayne2182 » 17 Nov 2011 14:33

Thanks for the info ive seen the Keedex sets around didnt know if it was any good
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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby keysman » 17 Nov 2011 17:49

wayne2182 wrote:Anyone have info on a good safe change set, and some info on safe changes.


You may want to try here:
http://www.sargentandgreenleaf.com/

Tons of great info and and an online class for free
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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby Dpruente » 18 Nov 2011 13:31

should we even be talking about this here? I've been here for a while, and the only talk of safes that I'll partake in on the open forums is off forum, as I don't feel comfortable putting anything about it out there for everyone to see.
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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby MacGyver101 » 18 Nov 2011 14:20

Dpruente wrote:should we even be talking about this here?

In the past, there's been a distinction made between discussing the construction of high-security locks and discussing techniques for opening high-security locks.

Changing the combination on an already-unlocked safe is analogous to rekeying a pin-tumbler lock: it's not info that's going to help anyone open the lock, so I'd (personally) view it as appropriate for the non-advanced forums. (Just my $0.02...) :)
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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 19 Nov 2011 10:04

wayne2182 wrote:Thanks for the info ive seen the Keedex sets around didnt know if it was any good


The Keedex K-18 is an absolute necessity if you intend to change safe combinations.

So is either a good paper notebook complete with notes and manufacturer information on combo changes or a laptop to look things up. Mechanical changes are often simple enough with the wheel pack cover removed, you can tell what you need to do. Electronic changes can be a bit tricky as each manufacturer has a different process. I'd try to print off instructions from each of the bigger manufacturers and keep them on hand until it becomes second nature for you.
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Re: Getting started with safes

Postby cledry » 22 Nov 2011 17:31

I prefer just to have a few individual keys of various types. I've never run across one I can't change with the @ 8 keys I have.
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